Minutes Silence today at 11am for victims of the London terrorist attack

[glenimp617]

Have you ever stood up for a minutes silence in the presence of everyone else doing the same? The reason that people do it is because it is powerful and it focuses the mind.

If you are just sitting at your desk and still looking at your PC screen then yeah it's totally pointless.

I think about the victims all the time though, not just for that particular minute. Look, I'm not against it. When they have the minutes silence before football games for instance and millions of viewers are doing the same, great. That's showing respect and a sense of everyone coming together.

Like you say, me sat here in the office...Nah I think about them all through the day, especially when I have the news on the TV/Radio

 

[byeo]

Have you ever stood up for a minutes silence in the presence of everyone else doing the same? The reason that people do it is because it is powerful and it focuses the mind.

If you are just sitting at your desk and still looking at your PC screen then yeah it's totally pointless.

I didn't stand up but I did actually time the "minute's silence" today to see how long it lasted. 1:03 for those wondering.

 

[Raggs]

was in my local asda at the time everybody stopped it was well observed by all

 

[kinobestew123]

GD question #1 - How much did you earn doing no work during the silence?
GD question #2 - GD Grammar Nazis - Is it 'minutes silence' or 'minute silence' or something else? - poll please...
GD question #3 - I carried on talking during the silence, and my colleagues complained, am I an arse?

 

[kinobestew123]

I didn't stand up but I did actually time the "minute's silence" today to see how long it lasted. 1:03 for those wondering.

You gave 5% extra respect. Good work!

 

[DrToffnar]

Ahhh GD. An endless sea of bitter old *****

xD

 

[spoffle]

That's because your generation wasn't brought up in the digital world of social media. You are probably the kind of person who speaks little, but does much.

There are a lot of people who genuinely think that facebook posts and likes help the cause. The same thing with the minutes silence. If they do it, they feel they are contributing something. Sharing the love if you will.

Personally, I don't think it does a damn thing. How is me sitting in silence for a minute paying respect? I've just been sat here in silence for the last hour working on my computer.

I'm in my mid 20s, I feel exactly the same. I've never understood the notion that it's a show of respect. I've always found it completely bizarre.

It's like the bee tattoo thing. People aren't really thinking about the specifics of what they're doing. They're just getting swept up what the masses does.

 

[DrToffnar]

I'm in my mid 20s, I feel exactly the same. I've never understood the notion that it's a show of respect. I've always found it completely bizarre.

It's like the bee tattoo thing. People aren't really thinking about the specifics of what they're doing. They're just getting swept up what the masses does.

Or they do genuinely feel that it's a way to memorialise the people that died?

Some people go over the top, of course they do, but jesus... if it comforts the family of just one victim, be it monetarily or emotionally then what's the issue?

 

[spoffle]

Or they do genuinely feel that it's a way to memorialise the people that died?

Some people go over the top, of course they do, but jesus... if it comforts the family of just one victim, be it monetarily or emotionally then what's the issue?

The real issue is when people try to impose these ideals onto others and act like it's somehow morally reprehensible if you don't follow.

As for the bee tattoo, I feel like it's an insincere attempt to be part of the latest social action.

 

[DrToffnar]

The real issue is when people try to impose these ideals onto others and act like it's somehow morally reprehensible if you don't follow.

As for the bee tattoo, I feel like it's an insincere attempt to be part of the latest social action.

Hmmmm, other then being a politician or a major celebrity of sorts I've never seen or heard of anyone being publicly denounced for such a thing. I've no doubt there's exceptions of course, but yeah.

As for your comment about insincerity, maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. Pretty hard to clarify the reasoning behind every incident of it happening as of yet so pardon me if I take the less cynical approach xD

 

[Mr.E.]

I didn't stand up but I did actually time the "minute's silence" today to see how long it lasted. 1:03 for those wondering.

It was nearer 1:40, It was the same length of time after the Manchester attack, I remember commenting on it at the time.

 

[ttaskmaster]

thankfully I am not a lone wierdo then

Oh, you still are... you just share a common opinion.

Have you ever stood up for a minutes silence in the presence of everyone else doing the same?

And that's the kicker - It need everyone to do it, else it's meaningless. I suspect the government was trying to encourage that kind of unity, but too many people no longer give a ****.

GD question #1 - How much did you earn doing no work during the silence?
GD question #2 - GD Grammar Nazis - Is it 'minutes silence' or 'minute silence' or something else? - poll please...
GD question #3 - I carried on talking during the silence, and my colleagues complained, am I an arse?

1 - I'm salaried, not paid by the hour, but if I were the latter it wouldn't be enough for any company to care.
2 - A minute's silence or a one minute silence.
3 - Yes, you are.

The real issue is when people try to impose these ideals onto others and act like it's somehow morally reprehensible if you don't follow.

Depends how many agree with those people. Morality is defined by what the majority feel is the right thing to do.

 

[kinobestew123]

1 - I'm salaried, not paid by the hour, but if I were the latter it wouldn't be enough for any company to care.
2 - A minute's silence or a one minute silence.
3 - Yes, you are.

To be clear, the questions I asked wern't in relation to me. More a stab at the flurry of posts before mine.

I took the silence to think about not just the London attack or Manchester attack but just how ridiculous these attacks are in general.

I also looked out of my window at the construction workers in Spinningfields and I was impressed with how they'd gathered outside the building and put down their tools. A nice gesture.

 

[DcD]

I think the main problem for me with the London minute's silence was that it felt way too premature. The police haven't even finished identifying the bodies of those killed, so I didn't even know who I was paying my respects to. Furthermore, on Tuesday, the death toll on Tuesday was seven people, since this morning it's now risen to eight, according to the news. Did this eighth person miss the boat of the nation paying their respect?!

Utterly agree with the notion here of "Less talk, more action". It just seemed that the conversation in government went along the lines of "There's been a terrorist attack in London." - "Oh dear, better call a minute's silence!".

Also, big +1 for a minute's silence while sat at work staring at your PC screen before going back to a chat or Spotify is not what is really meant. Standing at a cenotaph or war memorial with lots of other people is what it's intended for - the rest is just token social gesture for fear of being labelled cold hearted.

 

[spoffle]

Oh, you still are... you just share a common opinion.


And that's the kicker - It need everyone to do it, else it's meaningless. I suspect the government was trying to encourage that kind of unity, but too many people no longer give a ****.


1 - I'm salaried, not paid by the hour, but if I were the latter it wouldn't be enough for any company to care.
2 - A minute's silence or a one minute silence.
3 - Yes, you are.


Depends how many agree with those people. Morality is defined by what the majority feel is the right thing to do.

Morality isn't really based on consensus. It's more about the impact those actions might have on another person or group of people.

Essentially right and wrong but in an objective sense.

 

[ttaskmaster]

Morality isn't really based on consensus. It's more about the impact those actions might have on another person or group of people.
Essentially right and wrong but in an objective sense.

So it's OK to beat gay people to death, because their practices are unnatural and against the Bible, yes?

What you speak of is more what The Law is like, but not morality. The Law is morality set in stone and enforced.
Morality is subjective and so subject to change.
So many things once deemed immoral are now not only acceptable, but in part a way of life for some people. Other things were once the epitome of upstanding citizenship but will now get you banged up for many a decade!

Additionally, something can be 'not illegal' and clearly acceptable by those few who do it, yet still slammed as immoral by the majority of people, because they generally agree that it is wrong... which can include doing something that has an impact on no-one but your own self.

 

[insane200]

I will always observe the silence, Remember doing it for the 7/7 bombings and 9/11, really annoys me when people carry on chatting when they can clearly see others being respectful.

 

[arctine]

Yeah, how dare anyone make us feel morally pressured into being quiet for ~60s just because they have a different sense of empathy?

I get the point that you shouldn't have to participate in something that doesn't apply to you. However if not participating means you interrupt those who it does apply to, it is a lot easier to just do it. The hassle you'd cause in avoiding it is not worth the time you are interrupted for.

Props to anyone who doesn't understand it but just went along with it. You did the decent thing.

 

[Roland Butter]

Yes, it's overused now, an important aspect of Armistice Day has been hi-jacked by the grief glee-club for use at every
loss of life or tragedy.

Sorry, but my empathy and sorrow at the loss of life in one atrocity will not prevent another one happening.

It's meant to be secular but its quasi-religious aspects of contemplation and reverence are lost on me.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Watched on BBC ONE after Homes Under The Hammer, and noticed when they were doing the round the country shots, Sadiq Khan was giving a speech.