Terrible experience with the win10 creators update

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Past week blue screens every day, pc not booting (so i thought). So i google and the problem is getting worse. Thought it might be RAM eventually tested and fine.
So reinstall windows same USB install as before fails, then works but blue screen again. pulling hair out all i want to do is play total war!
Use Whocrashed and turns out the nvidia driver is crashing which is having a knock on affect for other BSODs.
More research and found a Reddit with lots of posts about nvidia driver issues when using creators update. From feature issues to crashes etc.
It seems Microsoft haven't exactly tested the creators update! Very frustrating wasting so much time. I find a 1511 version of windows and now on 1607 and working fine with Jan release nvidia drivers. Stable system now....this is a brand new custom build with kabylake and gtx1080....it should work with the latest version of windows!
Begs the question is Microsoft's drive to cloud and SaaS a good thing? Id seen posts on forums and here from people saying im going to linux or staying on windows 7 and thought nah why would you....now I know why.
Updating an OS with major features twice a year, is it to much? Should they not give us more stable releases once a year or less?
 
Problem is MS is spending too much time pushing features that either no one wants or have asked for or an approach to using the OS that no one actually wants and not enough time on the basic quality of life things and enough time testing major driver changes, etc.
 
Did you install the update manually or did it come through Windows update....?

Thankfully I had a Macrium Reflect backup and just restored the image and all has been well. But I had done a manual install of the Creators update, perhaps not the best way to do it.

Going through the Windows update and it is not available for me as yet, possibly why I was having so many issues when I manually installed it.
 
the update has done something to mine every time i boot up i have no internet the Lan driver is not working , have to go into device manager scan for hardware changes then it's okay :confused: the driver is up to date looked for a updated driver but there hasn't been one for years.
 
i have had the update on my pc and 2 laptops. No issues to report. I have nvidia on all 3 computers (but not the latest driver nor are they the performance type of cards, the PC is running quadro card which has driver dating back to 2016 a couple of months after W10 was implemented)
 
valerislysander said:
Past week blue screens every day, pc not booting (so i thought). So i google and the problem is getting worse. Thought it might be RAM eventually tested and fine.
So reinstall windows same USB install as before fails, then works but blue screen again. pulling hair out all i want to do is play total war!
Use Whocrashed and turns out the nvidia driver is crashing which is having a knock on affect for other BSODs.
More research and found a Reddit with lots of posts about nvidia driver issues when using creators update. From feature issues to crashes etc.
It seems Microsoft haven't exactly tested the creators update! Very frustrating wasting so much time. I find a 1511 version of windows and now on 1607 and working fine with Jan release nvidia drivers. Stable system now....this is a brand new custom build with kabylake and gtx1080....it should work with the latest version of windows!
Begs the question is Microsoft's drive to cloud and SaaS a good thing? Id seen posts on forums and here from people saying im going to linux or staying on windows 7 and thought nah why would you....now I know why.
Updating an OS with major features twice a year, is it to much? Should they not give us more stable releases once a year or less?
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Sounds like you found the cause ie Nvidia driver yet you blame the OS?...End of the day drivers are down to the manufacturer in question and not the OS. FYI I have two Win10 CU PCs with different hardware with no issues, as to BSOD I forgot what they look like and yes one of my Win10 has an overclocked CPU and video card.

I would still look into your Nvidia driver or the video card end of the day. Getting any OS including Win10 stable is very easy, finding the cause ie driver or hardware issue is always a lot harder.
 
Raggs said:
the update has done something to mine every time i boot up i have no internet the Lan driver is not working , have to go into device manager scan for hardware changes then it's okay :confused: the driver is up to date looked for a updated driver but there hasn't been one for years.
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Yeah, I had that with my Asrock z77. After the Creators Update the LAN driver had spats, locking up, losing connection, hanging, restarts upon blue screens. I too couldn't find drivers for the Broadcom LAN port. I had to do some amount of digging as there was nothing recent even on Broadcom's website. 2015. Broadcom's website is a train wreck finding stuff. After extensive searching hardware forums, I found drivers from April this year.

Tried Intel's latest? https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/47549 since yours is 82579 LAN controller.
 
V F said:
Yeah, I had that with my Asrock z77. After the Creators Update the LAN driver had spats, locking up, losing connection, hanging, restarts upon blue screens. I too couldn't find drivers for the Broadcom LAN port. I had to do some amount of digging as there was nothing recent even on Broadcom's website. 2015. Broadcom's website is a train wreck finding stuff. After extensive searching hardware forums, I found drivers from April this year.

Tried Intel's latest? https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/47549 since yours is 82579 LAN controller.
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thanks just gave it try never thought of Intel but weirdly still doing it seems this update has caused all sorts of problems for people , I'll put up with it rather than doing a roll back.
 
I read somewhere that MS were asking users not to install the creators update early and to wait until Win update offers it because of the problems it can cause. Its been a very hit and miss update for lots of people!
 
Can't even get mine to install... It downloads, prepares, 'installs', then restarts, but once I've logged in it wants to repeat the entire process over and over. I've tried uninstalling it first but that hasn't worked. :confused:

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Jamesyboyjim said:
I read somewhere that MS were asking users not to install the creators update early and to wait until Win update offers it because of the problems it can cause. Its been a very hit and miss update for lots of people!
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I did wait to get it through Windows Update and ran into Ethernet problems at the time.
 
Elevon said:
Sounds like you found the cause ie Nvidia driver yet you blame the OS?...
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If the driver works fine before an OS patch then has problems after, then the OS is to blame (more specifically a dodgy update that wasn't tested properly).

One of the best things about Windows 10 Pro is the ability to defer major updates, disable auto restarts and tell it to notify but not download/install updates <3
 
ubersonic said:
If the driver works fine before an OS patch then has problems after, then the OS is to blame (more specifically a dodgy update that wasn't tested properly).

One of the best things about Windows 10 Pro is the ability to defer major updates, disable auto restarts and tell it to notify but not download/install updates <3
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Regardless most users don't have these issues, too many variables to blame the OS in general, ie corrupted driver, third party anti-virus or software, faulty hardware, very easy just to point the blame at OS, in my experience over the decades rarely it's the OS that's the main cause. You tell me why my AMD and Nvidia based Win10 PCs with CU don't have these issues or my brothers PC or other people I know?..As I stated earlier, easy to blame the OS and point fingers, finding the real cause is another matter altogether.
 
Well, the problem never kicked in until that update released that didn't like the Ethernet drivers. It worked fine before it. How is that not an OS problem?
 
V F said:
Well, the problem never kicked in until that update released that didn't like the Ethernet drivers. It worked fine before it. How is that not an OS problem?
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I was really interested in Raggs post reply ie ,

the update has done something to mine every time i boot up i have no internet the Lan driver is not working , have to go into device manager scan for hardware changes then it's okay :confused: the driver is up to date looked for a updated driver but there hasn't been one for years.
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Main reason why, since I have the same motherboard and model with no issues including LAN ( yes my ethernet driver is from Intel's site).

I also have fast startup disabled FYI.
 
I had problems with my VM's after host got Creators update. The WiFi driver issue meant my VM's would show no internet connection even though the adaptors were connected to the mifi boxes. Rolled back update and all worked fine. Will creators try to update again down the line ? My update was MS scheduled not manual.
 
V F said:
I know but you were still implying its rarely ever the OS.
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To be fair you can argue there is always someone with OS, driver, hardware or software issue, if it was really a serious OS issue then Microsoft would have pulled the updates, again a lot of users don't have the issue so it could be a conflict or something else. No OS is perfect but 99% of the time it is something else. I think last time I had a serious issue was back in the XP days with infamous VIA 4 in 1 drivers. I personally never had an issue caused by the OS itself. Also sometimes reinstalling drivers solves issues but not always.Yes I have had an OS go weird and crazy (caused by faulty ram and also hard drive) but never the OS itself.
 
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