Advice on 27" G-sync monitor

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Have had bad luck with two bad acer predator xb271hu (back light bleed, bad pixels) , I then tried a viewsonic xg2703-gs which was better but not really good - backlight bleed agai. All have gone back.

So the question is, should I try an Asus ROG Swift PG279Q or will I just find exactly the same problems as I understand its all the same panel manufacturer? Do I persist and keep buying an acer? :)

Was also thinking about trying a Dell S2716DG but heard contrasting things about this especially if you dont get a revision 04? Also I havent used a TN panel in a long time and im a bit wary of them..

Wondering if anyone has any opinions or advice here.

Thanks
 
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I'm in pretty much the same boat, I haven't purchased any monitor yet though given the QA issues with the IPS monitors you mention.

I've been leaning towards buying a TN, from reviews it seems they have improved since I last used one (about 4 years ago).. I'm looking at the Dell S2417DG or S2716DG, I'm thinking 27" MAY be too big for a TN panel if there's colour shift.

The stress of buying a monitor is real ;/
 
phate101101 said:
I'm looking at the Dell S2417DG or S2716DG, I'm thinking 27" MAY be too big for a TN panel if there's colour shift.

The stress of buying a monitor is real ;/
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I've had the S2417DG for some months now and can definitely recommend it, it's a very clear & pixel packed screen, it has a nice pixel density. I did look at the 27" version but because of the obvious pixel inversion with the bigger TN's i didn't bother with it and went with the 24". It's a downsize from my old 120hz 1080p 27" screen but it sure has a noticeably better image quality to it. In fact the pixel density is pretty much almost the same as a 34" 4K screen.

Hardly any bleed on mine, tiny bit along the bottom but overall pretty good there IMO. I didn't want to go IPS because of the issues as well and it being a bit slower than TN for gaming.
 
Does anyone know if at some point the folks at the rain forest get upset if you keep sending back faulty monitors by the way? Thats 3 they have had back now this week..
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
I've had the S2417DG for some months now and can definitely recommend it, it's a very clear & pixel packed screen, it has a nice pixel density. I did look at the 27" version but because of the obvious pixel inversion with the bigger TN's i didn't bother with it and went with the 24". It's a downsize from my old 120hz 1080p 27" screen but it sure has a noticeably better image quality to it. In fact the pixel density is pretty much almost the same as a 34" 4K screen.

Hardly any bleed on mine, tiny bit along the bottom but overall pretty good there IMO. I didn't want to go IPS because of the issues as well and it being a bit slower than TN for gaming.
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Thanks, I'm using a 25" U2515H 1440p monitors in work and not sure I'd like to go much smaller in text size with my eyes, how do you find it if you need to read for a while?

Hutch said:
Does anyone know if at some point the folks at the rain forest get upset if you keep sending back faulty monitors by the way? Thats 3 they have had back now this week..
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Sorry don't mean to hijack your thread, I think it depends on what is considered "faulty" most companies will state what their tolerance is in terms of bleed and dead pixels, probably wise to contact them
 
phate101101 said:
Thanks, I'm using a 25" U2515H 1440p monitors in work and not sure I'd like to go much smaller in text size with my eyes, how do you find it if you need to read for a while?
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Well at first i thought everything was going to look tiny, but after using it i haven't found that to be the case really, though obviously the closer you sit the better. Best sitting no further than 3' away in my opinion, my eyesight is poor on distance as well but not really any problems wearing glasses. It's probably right at the limit of being comfortable icon/text size wise. I wouldn't want things to look any smaller.
 
I've had the S2417DG for about a week and a small part of me wants to try the 27" version (if it goes on sale again near me) while I'm in my return window just to make sure I don't have regrets staying with the 24. That said, I really like it for many reasons. I feel while sitting at about 28" from it that a 27" may show viewing angle issues and the size may be uncomfortably big ergonomically. I can't raise my chair anymore and I think the top of a 27" will be significantly higher than the recommended 3" above eye level. I get neck pain frequently as it is. And I feel if I put the monitor back too much so it's more comfortably within peripheral vision then the high PPI/small text will become more of an issue for me, even with 125% scaling. Going any higher in scaling makes things look too fuzzy and out of whack to me. I use 125% for my 24" and not all text in all programs get bigger so while the print is very fine in those cases, what helps is the high PPI and so the text is super clear - kind of like reading small text on a high PPI cell phone.

Regarding BLB I am not sure if I have that or not. What I do have is when you turn the monitor on and there's no signal yet, I can see the backlight on but it's pretty much uniform. It might be slightly brighter in the bottom corners. I am not sure if this is called BLB or it has to do with black level. My old monitor has this too but it is not as bright. I can see it too when opening a web page that is all black (doing screen tests).
 
@IntergalacticSpy:

1) If you've already bought a monitor, and it works, please don't return it just for nothing. When you have already opened the package, they can't sell it as new. This is the reason why many retailers nowadays have hefty re-stocking fees, which doesn't even cover everything. To cover the rest of the losses from returns, retailers/manufacturers have to jack up prices / lower general quality levels. That's part of the reason why we now have so many QC issues with new monitors (and electronics in general), and why retailers/manufacturers horse around with their return exchanges and customer service. Basically you made (maybe) a poor purchasing choice. Now you're thinking of shoving it as their loss. Well, they will transfer it into market.

2) With the current QC issues and poor customer support from manufacturers, you should stick to your monitor if it's working. You might get an ever worse unit back. And please don't get one for just "testing". The above principle applies. Rather find a brick-and-mortar store that has the unit on display (or any other similar model), and compare that.

3) With regards to the potential backlight bleed: if it's visible from all angles, then it's backlight bleed. But considering it's a TN monitor, it could also be color inversion (characteristic flaw of the panel type). But the color inversion is affected by the viewing angles, both horizontal and vertical, and it should disappear if you look at the spot perpendicularly (which will make the color inversion visible in other parts of the monitor, in turn). Anyway, considering you're not sure whether you have BLB or not, it can't be that bad of an issue.

Ps. Now don't get me wrong, returning a product is indeed your right as the customer. But please understand that if you're doing it without a proper cause, you're simply part of the problem, and making the situation worse.
 
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