Artists for Grenfell

Cleisthenes said:
As has been said before, the publicity is great for the celebs as well as it being a good cause. We don't know how much they've donated, and it's their right to not disclose that.

I hear Ariana Grande's songs on Radio 2 about 4 times as often as I used to so there are clearly upsides to doing this sort of thing for less privileged people.
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Surely you're not saying that the people that were killed in the manchester bombing were less privileged ?
 
just how much money do these residents need.
What is the aim of this charity to buy them all a fully furnished house each or what?

seems a bit crazy to make a charity single for a few hundred people, some of the money is going to other charities for the homeless in general, other victims of fires or what?
 
Shelster said:
Instead of their self promoting guff and asking the general public to dip ito theor pockets once again to help out, why dont they dip into their vast wealths and drop £100k each into the fund?
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They've given up their time and skills - that's probably worth at least 100k.

If a builder volunteered for one of these "home improvement" programs and gave their time to assist, would you also expect them to contribute some cash as well?
 
amigafan2003 said:
They've given up their time and skills - that's probably worth at least 100k.

If a builder volunteered for one of these "home improvement" programs and gave their time to assist, would you also expect them to contribute some cash as well?
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The PR of doing it is probably worth a lot more than 100k.

the PR to a builder doing one of those shows is probably worth nothing
 
Firstly its excellent PR to be involved in something like this. A lot of these artists probably come from similar backgrounds and have moved out of it. Essentially they are promoting their careers whilst earning a million or 2 quid. What else can they do except do what they know how to do? Awful warbling ghetto music.

Whatever, it doesn't hurt anyone and if eventually relieves the financial worries of all involved for a year. I guess they were "lucky" their building burnt down in the wake of Manchester and recent events in London, because people's sympathy levels are very high.
 
arknor said:
just how much money do these residents need.
What is the aim of this charity to buy them all a fully furnished house each or what?

seems a bit crazy to make a charity single for a few hundred people, some of the money is going to other charities for the homeless in general, other victims of fires or what?
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This is actually a fair question.

When you consider the fund raised in light of the Manchester terror attacks, the money will be used to help victims out who've been severely injured in the attack. I don't know the full extent of the victims injuries, but it wouldn't surprise me if some suffered loss of limbs or were perhaps paralysed. This costs a lot of money to bring some normality to their lives.

If there have been victims in the Grenfell fire that need this sort of money, then that's absolutely fine. But if the end result is every resident getting say 50 grand, you kinda wonder what the point of the charity was.
 
How much went into help for victims of the flooding over the last ten years? But they don't have the same political cachet as "poor" foreign looking people living in a "dangerous" building in the wealthiest borough in the UK. One might assume they would be covered on their home insurance, which would not be exorbitant, unlike people finding themselves priced out of the insurance market by repetitive flooding, (probably due to over population and over building on green land).
 
Chris Wilson said:
How much went into help for victims of the flooding over the last ten years? But they don't have the same political cachet as "poor" foreign looking people living in a "dangerous" building in the wealthiest borough in the UK. One might assume they would be covered on their home insurance, which would not be exorbitant, unlike people finding themselves priced out of the insurance market by repetitive flooding, (probably due to over population and over building on green land).
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Lack of aid elsewhere isn't good reason to not offer aid here. That's just a race to the bottom of altruism.
 
Shelster said:
By my count there are 30 'stars' who have taken part in this and from what I understand, they are definitaley not short of a bob or two. Instead of their self promoting guff and asking the general public to dip ito theor pockets once again to help out, why dont they dip into their vast wealths and drop £100k each into the fund?
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Because getting a 100,000 people to each contribute £2 - affordable by most of us, is more effective than a single celebrity giving £100,000 as an individual. Additionally, not all celebrities and artists are wealthy. They're often required to look it but many a highly successful band has actually been pretty poor behind the scenes. You don't know what the impact of such a large sum is on any given celebrity or their dependents is, but you can reasonably say the same amount divided over a million people is low impact.

Additional benefits beyond simply raising more money this way, are that it is a greater show of unity and support than one rich person donating and secondly, I feel confident in stating that some people would simply criticise any celebrities who did for "not doing enough - they've got loads" and "trying to make themselves look good".

EDIT: Also, what amigafan said - these people are donating things of value, their skills and effort.
 
Chris Wilson said:
How much went into help for victims of the flooding over the last ten years? But they don't have the same political cachet as "poor" foreign looking people living in a "dangerous" building in the wealthiest borough in the UK. One might assume they would be covered on their home insurance, which would not be exorbitant, unlike people finding themselves priced out of the insurance market by repetitive flooding, (probably due to over population and over building on green land).
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That smacks of envy.
 
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