Surge Pricing

[krooton]

without a VPN and separate clean accounts you'd never know if your getting the same price as others.

they could ad say a fiver to everything you look at based on the info you have,.
unless you check with a clean account you'd never know

I dunno, whenever deals are posted on HotUKDeals, prices are uniform for everyone.

Yes, they can change an hour after a deal is posted, but that change is the same for everyone at that time.

At least in my experience over the past 5 years of using that site.

 

[The Running Man]

Won't they use electronic signage for prices to be able to adjust them quickly, on the fly?

 

[Tefal]

I dunno, whenever deals are posted on HotUKDeals, prices are uniform for everyone.

Yes, they can change an hour after a deal is posted, but that change is the same for everyone at that time.

At least in my experience over the past 5 years of using that site.

but that is a deal.

how do you knwo the basic price of say a fork is not 1 pound for you but 1.20 for somone of a better financial abckground?

Won't they use electronic signage for prices to be able to adjust them quickly, on the fly?

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yes thats exxactly what the op said.

but ar you going top remove your eyeball and leve it staring at the sign in isle 3 while you walk to he checkout to check its the same?

 

[krooton]

but that is a deal.

how do you knwo the basic price of say a fork is not 1 pound for you but 1.20 for somone of a better financial abckground?

Camelcamel?

 

[Tefal]

Camelcamel?

like 99% of amazon custmoers i had no idea what that was before googling.

 

[RDM]

for about a week untill they all stabilize in a pricing structure as an uncoordinated form of collusion.

With the competition in the supermarket sector it seems pretty unlikely. In other sectors, it is a possibility.

 

[Tefal]

With the competition in the supermarket sector it seems pretty unlikely. In other sectors, it is a possibility.

there has to be a bottom price for them all.

also this thing will be store dependent.

so a Tesco express near an office building in Manchester can have a totally different price structure to a Tesco next to an alsi in a Yorkshire village.

 

[touch]

so a Tesco express near an office building in Manchester can have a totally different price structure to a Tesco next to an alsi in a Yorkshire village.

This is already the case. If you havn't noticed it, chances are you wont notice surge pricing either so there's nothing for you to worry about here.

 

[MooMoo444]

I have less than 5 mins from where I live...

Sainsbury's
Aldi
Lidl
ASDA
Iceland
Costco
Co op

Doubt they all will do this. Whoever does will loose my business. For now I'll keep shopping at mostly Lidl.

Pretty much the same, except Waitrose instead of Costco. Morrisons is only a few more minutes away. I wouldn't want to shop somewhere that is taking advantage.

 

[krooton]

like 99% of amazon custmoers i had no idea what that was before googling.

That's irrelevant though, camelcamel tracks the price of items, if prices are variable by customer, how can it work?

 

[Tefal]

That's irrelevant though, camelcamel tracks the price of items, if prices are variable by customer, how can it work?

camelcamel presumably collects its data as a customer?

so it would sho the camel camel price which once amazon finds out how/specificis of their data collection could offer a completely inaccurate cam el camel price?

This is already the case. If you havn't noticed it, chances are you wont notice surge pricing either so there's nothing for you to worry about here.

pretty much.

 

[Kronos]

Supermarkets have been getting away with 'creative pricing' for years and make it pretty difficult to actually stick to a budget unless you have a maths degree and shop with a calculator in hand and monitor prices over weeks and months. This will just add to the confusion though I wait the supermarkets convoluted justification for this new pricing method and how it will be extremely beneficial to us, the shopper.

 

[krooton]

camelcamel presumably collects its data as a customer?

so it would sho the camel camel price which once amazon finds out how/specificis of their data collection could offer a completely inaccurate cam el camel price?

You know you can browse Amazon and see prices without being logged in, right?

I see the same price for an item if I check from my laptop (home internet connection), phone (4g connection) and work laptop (VPN in the USA) when not logged in to Amazon, and that price stays the same when I log in from any of those devices.

 

[Tefal]

You know you can browse Amazon and see prices without being logged in, right?

I see the same price for an item if I check from my laptop (home internet connection), phone (4g connection) and work laptop (VPN in the USA) when not logged in to Amazon, and that price stays the same when I log in from any of those devices.

i know i was just speculating on how this information may change in the future/be manipulated. as this thread is about emerging tech not existing.

you wont necessarily know its because your logged in as you may be shown different suppliers etc.,


also not logged in could still provide a lot of information google adds etc dont reuire to be logged in, could this kind of information be shared?

 

[krooton]

i know i was just speculating on how this information may change in the future/be manipulated. as this thread is about emerging tech not existing.

you wont necessarily know its because your logged in as you may be shown different suppliers etc.,


also not logged in could still provide a lot of information google adds etc dont reuire to be logged in, could this kind of information be shared?

Cookies can and will hold information even when logged out, but those can be cleared. Any way, I was referring to Amazon specifically which I don't belive has variable pricing by consumer due to the examples I have given.

 

[touch]

I was referring to Amazon specifically which I don't belive has variable pricing by consumer due to the examples I have given.

I think you're probably right that it doesnt vary the prices on individual items by customer but it could effectively be done by manipulating search results and suggested items to show more expensive versions of the same item to some users.
I have no idea if this is the case or not and I havn't tried to test it, it just seems like a more logical way to do it than actually manipulating the price of an exact item by customer.

 

[Jimbeam3678]

This very company came to see myself and a colleague about 18 months ago, the software they are proposing to use is impressive as it does a lot more than reported. They were trialling this in Marks and Spencer in central London mainly around the short life food area.

ESL were originally designed with the Baltic region in mind where fines for mis-pricing is/were huge. All interesting but the prohibiting factor is, as always cost.

 

[CREATIVE!11]

Gotta squeeze the plebs for every last penny.

Record profits aint enough nomsayin'? but don't you worry, your wages still stay the same whilst we hike prices on the fly. We need a similar system for workers, hang a price tag around your neck and as you are forced to take on more work your wages receive an instant bump.

capitalism has gone insane. I'm quite angered by this if im honest.

Won't someone please just think of the shareholders and ceos for once?!

Jokes aside same, I'm getting more and more sick of it if I'm honest.

 

[Greebo]

I dunno, whenever deals are posted on HotUKDeals, prices are uniform for everyone.

Yes, they can change an hour after a deal is posted, but that change is the same for everyone at that time.

At least in my experience over the past 5 years of using that site.

Wont be long before Amazon does surge pricing direct with customers. They already do it with the sellers, charging them three times more for Nov and Dec sales.

https://www.channeladvisor.com/blog...-fba-surge-pricing-what-sellers-need-to-know/

Which should have had an affect of slightly raising the price of goods on Amazon in Nov and Dec, but not enough that anybody noticed.

 

[krooton]

Wont be long before Amazon does surge pricing direct with customers. They already do it with the sellers, charging them three times more for Nov and Dec sales.

https://www.channeladvisor.com/blog...-fba-surge-pricing-what-sellers-need-to-know/

Which should have had an affect of slightly raising the price of goods on Amazon in Nov and Dec, but not enough that anybody noticed.

Surging prices for everyone is one thing, dynamic pricing at an individual customer level is what I was talking about