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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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labbby said:
well if you look at it from another angle it might be a good thing for us. If they totally mess up the release of this card and it damages sales of the gaming version then AMD might be stuck with a load of stock they need to shift so they may lower the price :) <---- positive hat on today
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There's always a bright side :p
 
labbby said:
well if you look at it from another angle it might be a good thing for us. If they totally mess up the release of this card and it damages sales of the gaming version then AMD might be stuck with a load of stock they need to shift so they may lower the price :) <---- positive hat on today
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Wouldn't mind putting two Vega FE in Crossfire for the right price :)
 
In some ways I wish we knew that this is what vega gaming will perform like as it would definitely give me the go ahead to flog my 290 on ebay and then buy a cheap second hand 1070/1080.

But alas, another month or 2 of waiting and by then the mining bubble will have probably burst :(
 
If it is barely faster than the Fury X, then there is something wrong in software. I frankly don't believe those Frontier results at all. AMD would have canned the whole thing if it were performing this bad IMO, or brought it in at much lower pricing.

Don't believe the initial results (and if you are, not to be offensive, but think about it).
 
TNA said:
Be that as it may. It makes no sense to me to get all wound up about the FE results unless it is the FE card you are intending to buy. I would rather ignore it all and wait to see proper reviews for the card I am actually interested in buying.

If RX Vega is disappointing in both price and performance, then they won't get our money, simples.
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I definitely think there is some performance missing,I just have a hard time believing its drivers.



However, here is an anecdote. Intel designed a new processor called the Itanium. From a theoretical point of view the architecture is massive leap beyond the ancient X86 ISA we are stuck with. The problem is it is incredibly difficult to get the actual theoretical performance out of it. The software is too complex to make use of the hardware. So maybe AMD tried some big changes without thinking about the software side.
 
Martini1991 said:
The FE card is officially released, so I don't understand the not believing the results.
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quick question as i cant read the whole thread for obv reasons but for the gaming card is there any indication of release dates etc. for the last 6-8 weeks ive been keeping an eye in here but all i seem to get is it could still be 6-8 weeks away.
 
iamthenugget said:
quick question as i cant read the whole thread for obv reasons but for the gaming card is there any indication of release dates etc. for the last 6-8 weeks ive been keeping an eye in here but all i seem to get is it could still be 6-8 weeks away.
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AMD have stated the gaming version will be released at Siggraph which runs from 30th Jul - 3rd August. So those are your RX Vega gaming GPU launch dates. Then we can judge it's proper gaming capability
 
ljt said:
AMD have stated the gaming version will be released at Siggraph which runs from 30th Jul - 3rd August. So those are your RX Vega gaming GPU launch dates. Then we can judge it's proper gaming capability
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thnx so essentially just over a month away then is not too bad i guess.
 
five8five said:
Have to agree, not sure if HBM2 is worth it considering how GDDR5/X cards can perform.

It'll certainly be interesting to see how the AIB perform.
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Yeah HBM2 looks like another flop, unless there is some magic AMD can use with their cache controller and/or infinity fabric.

Only seems worth it with 4 stacks, for up to 1TB/s and 32GB, but then it's very expensive. 2 stacks is cheaper but then slower than GDDR5X at 384-bit bus.

HBM3 looks promising though. Goes up to 128GB (I think, might be 64GB) and 2 TB/s with 4 stacks, or even 512 GB/s for just 1 stack. GDDR6 at 16 GHz on a 512-bit bus will still only be 1 TB/s, and I don't think there's any roadmap for 32-40 GHz GDDR7 anytime soon?

GDDR would need to be 42.7 GHz at 384-bit (the reasonable cost bit-width) to match 2 TB/s, or 21.5 GHz to match 1 TB/s.

So when we start needing 1TB/s and above, MAYBE HBM will finally make sense :p
 
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