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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **
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Yeah, Raja said his goal with Vega was to bring 4K gaming to the masses; and to have 4K gaming systems for under 1K total.
AMD's Raja Koduri "The P in PC should stand for performance" - The Full Nerd from CES 2017
https://youtu.be/FwcUMZLvjYw?t=14m11s
One would hope they managed to reach his own estimations at least; and we still have a month before we find out at Siggraph.
No, i didn't know who he was, and your reading into what he said that isn't there, your frustrations are entirely self inflicted.
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Eh?
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That's what you're doing isn't it? I've posted Raja's twitter handle and you've replied with something else.
As fun as watching you have a meltdown is, I'm not interested in another brick wall conversation.
I think that an FE running the same clocks and drivers as an RX would perform pretty much the same in gaming, I can only assume that RX's going to run higher clocks, and that AMD have scored a driver own goal with FE as it stands.
I have no frustrations other than wishing I could replace my 290X.
So to summarise where we think we're at:
- AMD focused on Vega's compute performance first and foremost. They have been vocal about attacking the strategic cloud/deep-learning sector and have invested a lot in ROCm and technologies (HBCC, SSG, HBM) that mostly make sense there.
- This is reflected in their driver work, where the 'compute' part is ready, hence Vega FE. AMD thought it's ok to launch the FE because it's not a 'gaming card'. As a prosumer card, as long as compute is ok, the gaming speed is not the end-all-be-all.
- Thus AMD just certified the very-first stable drivers and bundled them for the launch. Hence Vega FE sucks in gaming.
- RX Vega will launch with 'proper' gaming drivers and we'll see its true potential.
- Vega FE users will get a nice gaming performance bump when those drivers are released.
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Your ignoring what is there, When asked about gaming he said Absolutely, It supports the RX driver and it delivers smooth 4k gameplay, In the video I linked earlier Ryan at Pcper stated that he'd spoken to AMD who'd told him all the current optimisations available are in the FE driver now.
No, i'm perfectly comfortable with the results as i'm not expecting to be something it isn't.
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Well also the RX Vega should have better cooling if they use another AIO water cooler.
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Personally I'm hoping we get a water cooled RX flagship that has no problem sitting at 1600mhz all day long,
And has had good quality control so it's up to the standard of the 295 rather than the Fury X.
And has had good quality control so it's up to the standard of the 295 rather than the Fury X.
I'm not ignoring it, unlike everyone else it seems i'm just not expecting "support" to have the same level as "indicative of", that is a leap which nothing in reason can be justified.
Thats where too many people far too often get it so wrong, they read into something that just isn';t there at all and then get mad with the messenger for their own mistakes.
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Well its most likely as there is a water cooled Frontier Edition coming out in a few months.
That alone could give 10% maybe even 15% extra performance there.
Whatever it is if we are going to go off the PcPer results and assume those are final gaming performance -10% or so it nothing like enough, that would make it 10% faster than my 1070.
Is this a $250 and 280 watts, thats not good enough, not by a very very long way, unless its really cheap to give the $250 crowed and upgrade path.
Its a Fury-X + 15%, thats shocking and with the cost to AMD of the thing surley AMD couldn't actually afford to make it and put it on the market? that would cost as much as they could sell it for.
Is this a $250 and 280 watts, thats not good enough, not by a very very long way, unless its really cheap to give the $250 crowed and upgrade path.
Its a Fury-X + 15%, thats shocking and with the cost to AMD of the thing surley AMD couldn't actually afford to make it and put it on the market? that would cost as much as they could sell it for.
I was mainly referring to the can you game on it part.
You've come into the thread today stating you can't game on the FE, you shouldn't as it's a workstation card. Raja says otherwise. Please accept this.
I totally agree totally with waiting for the RX if you're a gamer.
The issue being discussed is the performance of the FE in games and what the cause(s) is / are.
You made that up... i did no such thing.
I have watched the video, so have people at Beyond3d and Vega rasterizers exactly like Fiji does. I have literally shown you the webm people from Beyond 3D uploaded having tested Fiji and it's exactly the same as Vega from the PcPer test.
https://gfycat.com/InsecureEagerKingbird
Vega should look like the middle according to tests from David Kanter and Realworldtech
And if you bothered reading gthe rest of the Beyond 3D thread you will realize that the results of that utility don't.mean anything because it's not.clear that utility would force Vega to use a TBR mode
"I am focused" ?
What kind of marketing is this?
If you're too thick, click here. This is a hyperlink?
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This is the heatsink from Vega FE, its just as unimpressive as the reference Nvidia cooler. Aftermarket Air cooling should easily work better.
full teardown here.
Actually, they are near identical.
Someone is is such denial about their believed AMD they are twisting the must absurd attempt at refutations.
And as I said before, if you truly believe the Vega Fe is just a workstation card and bad for gaming then the results are even worse for Vega. It gets completely destroyed by a 1080 GP104 GPU in professional software.
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