Yeah, and AMD should die (as you said before)
The guys first GPU architecture that he worked from the start is Navi, at least give him a chance until it comes out imo.
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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **
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The guys first GPU architecture that he worked from the start is Navi, at least give him a chance until it comes out imo.
Yep not making much sense I thought amd would come out and say something but they they seem happy enough to keep quiet
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It doesn't make much sense at all - if they are sandbagging and drop something massive now they achieve nothing by keeping their cards to their chest until then - just a PR disaster that won't entirely go away even with a massively successful launch and basically insulting towards their loyal customers while having at this point no strategic value in respect to what nVidia might do etc. Its really odd.
The already said don't judge RX Vega based on a none gaming card so possibility of something good coming. It would be unbelievable otherwise to see absolutely no gains from a new architecture.
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it could be that amd are luring NVidia into a sense of false security ... or it could be I'm off tom and have drunk to much voddy ...lol
So little offtopic, being the vega thread, but I figure most people in similar positions are here, got me a dilemma.
Was going to get a 1070 as an upgrade to my 290, missed the good deals here, then miners drove prices up. Sat around, 1070 quicksilver came back in stock for a decent price, so jumped on one, but now it's actually sitting here, second guessing the choice a little.
I figure vega will probably at best be 1080ish performance, likely will be expensive or at the very least over budget (£400 max) due to big die & hbm and who knows when the aib with decent coolers will come in good quantity, so the 1070 is probably a safe bet still. I'm not tied to gsync/freesync and don't ever intend to be. Not opened the box yet, so can still change my mind, but new shiny is also tempting.
AMD could pull the rabbit out of the hat, but then nvidia could drop prices and I'd have a similar decision or it could go the other way, vega is too expensive for me, mining carries on and a sub £400 card is still hard to find.
Thoughts? Stick with my original pick? Chicken out and send back? Buying stuff is torture
Was going to get a 1070 as an upgrade to my 290, missed the good deals here, then miners drove prices up. Sat around, 1070 quicksilver came back in stock for a decent price, so jumped on one, but now it's actually sitting here, second guessing the choice a little.
I figure vega will probably at best be 1080ish performance, likely will be expensive or at the very least over budget (£400 max) due to big die & hbm and who knows when the aib with decent coolers will come in good quantity, so the 1070 is probably a safe bet still. I'm not tied to gsync/freesync and don't ever intend to be. Not opened the box yet, so can still change my mind, but new shiny is also tempting.
AMD could pull the rabbit out of the hat, but then nvidia could drop prices and I'd have a similar decision or it could go the other way, vega is too expensive for me, mining carries on and a sub £400 card is still hard to find.
Thoughts? Stick with my original pick? Chicken out and send back? Buying stuff is torture
Doesn't make sense at this point - a card with meh performance followed up relatively shortly by the proper gaming card with the current environment is irrelevant in long term strategy when it comes to GPU development - they lose nothing by showing their hand now and potentially everything to gain.
If they are sandbagging at this point its become a bit elitist and for that personal prestige in the moment of revealing it and that is quite insulting to their loyal customers IMO.
Thoughts? Stick with my original pick? Chicken out and send back? Buying stuff is torture
I don't think there are any "good" options at this point - just make the one that seems least worst and hope for the best
I'm quite happy with my 1070 but I'm holding my money now waiting for something that is actually faster than the 1080ti before upgrading again.
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And probably will have legal proceedings against them from people paying $1000 for Vega Fe that has broken hardware, or investors will sue for seriously screwing up the launch of RX Vega on purpose.
Which is why the most logical explanation at this stage is RX Vega which is the same GPU with the smaller drivers performs very similar. Maybe there is a small boost with a new stepping and some power-clock tweaking but realistically, Vega Fe has to in a similar ball park
What so Nvidia could magically release a new GPU next month if Vega FE was good, but by waitibg 1 moth for arX Vega to.release Nvidia would be completely unable to release?
Nvidia will release Volta on their on schedule, likely by end of the year
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I thought you believed 1070 performance with the rest of the forum?
i don't think it is sandbagging, but getting the software fully ready to enable all of the new hardware features in vega if they really are not enabled with Vega FE yet. Since they will want a stable driver without experimental code being used with Vega FE since the card is aimed at pro type workloads.
Investors can't sue for a poor launch of a product. They can sue for being misled into believing that a product is better than it is and causing them to invest in a company. FE hardware is broken? This is news to me. Also broken hardware comes under warranty claims or being returned.
That is definitely not the most logical explanation. It is one of the explanations.
I can't believe that with less than 4 weeks before launch, gaming RX drivers are not in final release testing. Sure amd will be working on future release drivers, but launch drivers will be in their final form with no serious changes unless a major bug is found.
From what I've read FE game mode does exactly zero. Why? Now amd could be completely incompetant, which is a possibility. Or they want to save gaming performance for the official RX launch.
It depends how long it takes to get through final validation? Unless you know how AMDs internal process works you can't really guess that.
Also I would like to point to games getting day 1 patches.
Still waiting for something that I can upgrade my fury-x to, if I had a g-sync monitor I would have bought a 1080ti already and been done with it.
I still have faith that the gaming versions can deliver on performance, all it takes is some driver optimization and some higher clock speeds. The only thing that worries me is that due to the cost of HBM that AMD won't be able to compete on price/performance because HBM will make it impossible even if the performance is good.
I'm still surprised they pushed for HBM for the gaming cards and didn't just go for some XGDDR5 which isn't prohibitive expensive.
I still have faith that the gaming versions can deliver on performance, all it takes is some driver optimization and some higher clock speeds. The only thing that worries me is that due to the cost of HBM that AMD won't be able to compete on price/performance because HBM will make it impossible even if the performance is good.
I'm still surprised they pushed for HBM for the gaming cards and didn't just go for some XGDDR5 which isn't prohibitive expensive.
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