Drones, overreaction or justified?

Raymond Lin said:
ps I want one to do aerial shots of wedding venues too so I really don't want any such rules to prohibit someone like me to use it for these kind of purposes but I rather have these rules than a plane being taken down by one of these.
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You already need a license for that.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Serial number registration/licence for every new drone purchased. Or need to apply for a licence before you can even buy one. £5,000 per licence.

10 years imprisoment for being caught owning one without a licence, like a handgun.

Harsh? Yes but it'll stop most people buying them.

ps I want one to do aerial shots of wedding venues too so I really don't want any such rules to prohibit someone like me to use it for these kind of purposes but I rather have these rules than a plane being taken down by one of these.
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There is no correlation between disposable income and common sense ;)

Requiring a person to buy a £5000 license just means you'll have rich muppets flying them problematically ;)
 
I was on duty this evening when the closures occurred. Dealt with a number of diversions including one which declared a mayday due to their fuel state.

We get a few of these every day. They don't paint on RADAR. There's nothing we can do other than warn other aircraft in the area after a sighting or airprox has occurred.

Collisions aside, the disruptoon caused during incidents like this carries a safety risk.
 
amigafan2003 said:
Taking photos of wedding venues? I presume that would be a service you charge for?
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Eh? I would be there hired by the couple to photograph the wedding, whom in turn have hired the venue for the wedding.

I don't need a licence to take a photo of this from 6ft off the ground, what do I need a licence to take a photo of it 300ft off the ground?

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Scuzi said:
I was on duty this evening when the closures occurred. Dealt with a number of diversions including one which declared a mayday due to their fuel state.

We get a few of these every day. They don't paint on RADAR. There's nothing we can do other than warn other aircraft in the area after a sighting or airprox has occurred.

Collisions aside, the disruptoon caused during incidents like this carries a safety risk.
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Do you work in tower control? :o
 
Raymond Lin said:
Eh? I would be there hired by the couple to photograph the wedding, whom in turn have hired the venue for the wedding.

I don't need a licence to take a photo of this from 6ft off the ground, what do I need a licence to take a photo of it 300ft off the ground?

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You need a licence for any commercial use of a drone.
 
FoxEye said:
There is no correlation between disposable income and common sense ;)

Requiring a person to buy a £5000 license just means you'll have rich muppets flying them problematically ;)
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10 years prison is the same for everyone, whether you are rich or poor.

amigafan2003 said:
You need a licence for any commercial use of a drone.
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I did not know that….does that apply to Youtubers???
 
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Raymond Lin said:
10 years prison is the same for everyone, whether you are rich or poor.
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e: Why the heck did I think I was replying to Tefal? Who knows....

Tefal Raymond, you're not stupid.

You know full well that if the only way to operate a drone legally is to buy a £5000 license (your suggestion), then only (relatively) rich people will be able to legally operate drones.

You'll also kill the drone market overnight if you do this.

And again, people who are able to stump up the cash aren't automatically the intelligentsia, just because they can afford the price of entry.

Rich people also do stupid things, believe it or not!

Look at Trump.... he's quite well off! Is he blessed with intelligence and/or common sense? You decide!
 
amigafan2003 said:
You need a licence for any commercial use of a drone.
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This.

I gave the National Hot Rods a couple of my photos when they asked, and I couldn't charge them as I don't have a commercial licence. Quite happy to though, they're decent chaps and I was out taking photographs anyway.

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That aside, firms like DJI do put geo restrictions on flying but they are relatively simple to bypass if you want. People just need to be aware and sensible where jeu choose to fly. Not too far from me the local air ambulance flies, and often that's well within the parameters of what I'm allowed to do. You just need to be sensible, but not everyone is...
 
Raymond Lin said:
Serial number registration/licence for every new drone purchased. Or need to apply for a licence before you can even buy one. £5,000 per licence.

10 years imprisoment for being caught owning one without a licence, like a handgun.

Harsh? Yes but it'll stop most people buying them.

ps I want one to do aerial shots of wedding venues too so I really don't want any such rules to prohibit someone like me to use it for these kind of purposes but I rather have these rules than a plane being taken down by one of these.
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Raymond Lin said:
Eh? I would be there hired by the couple to photograph the wedding, whom in turn have hired the venue for the wedding.

I don't need a licence to take a photo of this from 6ft off the ground, what do I need a licence to take a photo of it 300ft off the ground?

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There's something ironic about suggesting harsh regulations and even harsher punishments for not following them when you haven't even followed the current regulations! 10 years imprisonment for Mr Lin :D

As a newcomer to drones I've found the drone assist app a fantastic way to work out where it's safe to use a drone. I am personally all for regulating their usage including a license for both private and commercial use once above a certain size (I.e so it excludes the toy shop ones for use indoors). I don't however see the need for making the license £5k. If it's a genuine hobby it should be accessible by all as long as competence is demonstrated.
 
Abyss said:
There's something ironic about suggesting harsh regulations and even harsher punishments for not following them when you haven't even followed the current regulations! 10 years imprisonment for Mr Lin :D

As a newcomer to drones I've found the drone assist app a fantastic way to work out where it's safe to use a drone. I am personally all for regulating their usage including a license for both private and commercial use once above a certain size (I.e so it excludes the toy shop ones for use indoors). I don't however see the need for making the license £5k. If it's a genuine hobby it should be accessible by all as long as competence is demonstrated.
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Lol, I was just throwing out random numbers really.

What really important is a safe radius within airports, which is common sense. Canada has the same rules I believe.
 
Had a drone hovering over our garden today at about 15m.

Solution - every drone must flash out a unique reg code using its nav lights as well as on wifi. That code is registered to the user.

If I film the drone on my mobile the code can be obtained by the police and the owner fined. Equally if the drone is in restricted airspace the wifi code can be used to trace the owner at greater range.

Any drone not conforming to these rules is illegal and can be confiscated.
 
Personally I think licensing is the way forward together with lengthy prison sentences for anyone caught flying them near airports etc.

As with everything we'll have to wait until a plane actually crashes and hundreds of people die before the Government actually legislates.
 
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