New to the gaming PC Scene

Associate
Joined
18 Jul 2017
Posts
3
Hi guys I'll cut a long story short, I know nothing really about PCs. I am wanting to buy a new PC to play unknown player battlefield which I am sure most of you have heard of.

What sort of PC do I need etc? I know it's a bit vague but I just want a cheap one that will work the game and look and run great. Any opinions on bundles etc? Or do I really just need to build or get someone to build one for me ?

Thanks for your help
 
Are you going to be playing on your TV or will you need a monitor? If you'll be playing on the TV, is the TV HD or 4K? Do you have speakers? A headset? Does the PC itself need to look good? Does it need to be small or transportable?
 
Hi thanks, I was going to ask about the tv it is just a hd tv, I have a headset, I am not bothered about it looking good, how big etc, just so it plays the game flawlessly really.
 
Here you go. I've tried to be cheap but spend a little extra where it can count.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £831.59
(includes shipping: £12.30)




Extra funds should be spent on upgrading the GPU to a GTX 1060.

You could save about £100 by dropping to a quad core Ryzen, a cheaper case, and using a HDD instead of a SSD.
 
The above build will get the job done. It would be better to play on an actual gaming monitor with a wired keybo/mouse for best experience but it depends on what the OP wants to do in the end.
The EVGA 450/500/600B powersupplies are quite "meh" as Lisa Simpson would say. I had one that only ever had 70W of load on it for 2.5 years roll over and die for no apparent reason recently. Not very impressive. It was on a high end surge suppressor and there is ANOTHER high end surge suppressor built into my electrical panel in my home so go figure...

The superflower HX golden green costs a bit more but is SOOOO much better.

btw not 100% sure that the 212 cooler includes the ryzen mounting kit yet?
 
Quartz has given solid advice and put together a solid budget build (especially as no price guide prices was given) - i've only replied as i was alerted by the @Plec :)

I'm sure @stulid and @Plec will be along shortly with even better builds.
Not better - just little differences. You've built a bang for buck machine with a good looking case for the living room. Plus, totally agree re: GFX and dropping SSD until a later date if budget dictates...

The only tweak i would make is the memory - ideally it would be 3000MHz to pair with the Ryzen - the performance gains are worth the extra (but appreciate you may have done this for budget purposes). And the Stock Wraith cooler when on a low budget will take a moderate clock - they're almost comparable to the cheaper third party coolers - i've been really impressed with their performance (and relatively silent at stock - surprisingly good).

As mentioned nothing wrong with Quartz build - only giving an example uild as you can mix and match. And as you didn't specify a specific budget you can mix and match as your finances dictate.

I've essentially added 16Gb of 3000MHz memory - but only because OcUK don't sell 1 stick of 8Gb of 3000MHz (you could have then added another stick of 8Gb when flush). But if you could afford it 16Gb is worth it if the budget allows it.

Quartz picked a quality M-ATX case - white or black they look sleek and discrete - especially for living room areas. I've chosen a budget option for comparison - it will do the job looks OK but not the same quality as the Bitfinex.

I've also used a different PSU - but that's my preference as always use it in budget builds - picked the 550W as only ~£10 more than the 450W version and gives you a bit of headroom for upgrades in the future (but 450W would suffice).

Plus you would still need to budget in Windows. You can use it free for 90 days and then buy it when you're a bit more flush.


My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £809.64
(includes shipping: £12.30)




You could buy the 1500X (cheaper) - but the 1600 is an easy clock (even with stock cooler) and worth the extra cores/threads for longevity.

Best thing to do is look at your budget and mix and match the builds - 3000MHz memory is a bonus and you could save money using stock cooler. But Quartz case is a nice bit of kit if the budget allows.

EDIT: Quartz 1050ti is better bang for buck - i only choose Gigabyte for UK RMA (habit). But nothing wrong with MSI and definitely worth the saving.


Below build with the MSI card, 16Gb 3000MHz the Bitfenix and the 450W PSU (you still need to factor in the cost of an OS):

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £813.58
(includes shipping: £13.20)




As Quartz rightly mentioned you could drop the SSD and add it at later date (but if you can afford it get one) - or if funds are greater add a GTX 1060 but the GTX 1050Ti does an admirable job at 1080p. And the Ryzen 1600 will out live the card by a few generations...​
 
Last edited:
Quartz has given solid advice and put together a solid budget build (especially as no price guide prices was given) - i've only replied as i was alerted by the @Plec :)


Not better - just little differences. You've built a bang for buck machine with a good looking case for the living room. Plus, totally agree re: GFX and dropping SSD until a later date if budget dictates...

The only tweak i would make is the memory - ideally it would be 3000MHz to pair with the Ryzen - the performance gains are worth the extra (but appreciate you may have done this for budget purposes). And the Stock Wraith cooler when on a low budget will take a moderate clock - they're almost comparable to the cheaper third party coolers - i've been really impressed with their performance (and relatively silent at stock - surprisingly good).

As mentioned nothing wrong with Quartz build - only giving an example uild as you can mix and match. And as you didn't specify a specific budget you can mix and match as your finances dictate.

I've essentially added 16Gb of 3000MHz memory - but only because OcUK don't sell 1 stick of 8Gb of 3000MHz (you could have then added another stick of 8Gb when flush). But if you could afford it 16Gb is worth it if the budget allows it.

Quartz picked a quality M-ATX case - white or black they look sleek and discrete - especially for living room areas. I've chosen a budget option for comparison - it will do the job looks OK but not the same quality as the Bitfinex.

I've also used a different PSU - but that's my preference as always use it in budget builds - picked the 550W as only ~£10 more than the 450W version and gives you a bit of headroom for upgrades in the future (but 450W would suffice).

Plus you would still need to budget in Windows. You can use it free for 90 days and then buy it when you're a bit more flush.


My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £809.64
(includes shipping: £12.30)




You could buy the 1500X (cheaper) - but the 1600 is an easy clock (even with stock cooler) and worth the extra cores/threads for longevity.

Best thing to do is look at your budget and mix and match the builds - 3000MHz memory is a bonus and you could save money using stock cooler. But Quartz case is a nice bit of kit if the budget allows.

EDIT: Quartz 1050ti is better bang for buck - i only choose Gigabyte for UK RMA (habit). But nothing wrong with MSI and definitely worth the saving.


Below build with the MSI card, 16Gb 3000MHz the Bitfenix and the 450W PSU (you still need to factor in the cost of an OS):

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £813.58
(includes shipping: £13.20)




As Quartz rightly mentioned you could drop the SSD and add it at later date (but if you can afford it get one) - or if funds are greater add a GTX 1060 but the GTX 1050Ti does an admirable job at 1080p. And the Ryzen 1600 will out live the card by a few generations...​

Isn't 3000Mhz RAM a p.i.t.a. to get running with Ryzen?
 
Isn't 3000Mhz RAM a p.i.t.a. to get running with Ryzen?
Not so much since the latest AGESA release which has been incorperated and updated in the official F4/F7 BIOS (the Gigabyte Gaming 3 flavoured boards). It's obviously not guaranteed but even the budget Team Vulcan memory seems to be hitting 3000MHz (2933) with the XMP.

All recent advised builds feedback have now been able to hit 3000 with the new official BIOS. But again stress not guaranteed - but it seems more the norm than not with update. (All my builds/advised builds have hit 3000 using the XMP since new release. And 3 out of 4 3200 kits I've built - one virtually - are at 3200 MHz - but one won't budge past 2933 - so can be a lottery still)

OP would need to update BIOS as soon as possible for compatibility and stability purposes. Usual practice with Ryzen builds unfortunately but simple enough.

The sweet spot of 3200MHz is still hit and miss though - but even that lottery will hopefully be ironed out with future BIOS updates and rumours of better dividers.

Certainly makes sense to speculate to accumulate - as relatively small difference in price between 2400 and 3000 memory and gains are significant. Ryzen performance thrives on fast memory - gains appear to falter past ~3400. But this info keeps changing as users still experimenting and BIOS/AGESA updates deliver new results.

The PITA and excitement of early adoption...

EDIT: typed on useless tablet, while watching news, so excuse countless edits for auto corrects.
 
Last edited:
Agreed, for a first build, I suggest a simple, straightforward standard tower with cable management options, nice HDD caddys, and tool-less drive options. Look at what proper cable management looks like and follow along. Carey Holzman's Newegg video on how to build a gaming PC on youtube is a good starting point.

Watch a few videos. I've seen first time builders kill their parts. There was a thread on overclockers.com where this guy used the ENTIRE TUBE OF AS5 on his CPU. It seeped under the CPU and gunked up the socket and that was the end of it.

I think he took all the parts and threw them in the dumpster in a hardware-rage-quit fit of rage and never posted again.

He bought a DELL, dude. hehe. Seriously though don't do anything without knowing what you're doing.
 
Back
Top Bottom