Have Tesla ever heard of the UK?
(or night driving).Sale of petrol and diesel cars to be banned by 2040
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(or night driving).
Future E - batteries will be able to support a range 90%+ of motorists will be able to use daily.
But I agree for high density cities automation may start to take over moving people around commutes
Have Tesla ever heard of the UK?
Solar technology is improving rapidly. Elon Musk is convinced that it's the most convenient and practical way of charging electric vehicles.
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It is 23 years away though - look at the state of mobile phones 23 years ago compared with today for example:
they'll probably be mostly automated by then too (though maybe not fully - I'd assume any automation could be manually overridden) and at least we could enforce driving bans etc.. through use of verification systems
One of the biggest hurdles by far is insisting on controlling vehicles ourselves. I would be more than happy to jump into my car and have it do the 20 mile drive for me each way to work.
Its 35-40 mins duration that I could spend doing something else twice a day, such as sorting bills, looking for holidays etc
neither of those are really going to work
I want to go kite surfing at the weekend and strap stuff to the roof, drive to some remote area... uber aren't necessarily going to have a bunch of driver who have vehicles they're happy to have dirty wetsuits slung in the back of and things strapped to the roof... assuming they had a few they'd run out some weekends etc..
as for solar panels, they'll not likely convert enough energy - certainly not in the UK even with improved panels
Its not true anyway. Tesla has no plans to do that. However they are very much wanting to get into auto driving and upsurp Uber.Have Tesla ever heard of the UK?
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They already do, take the model 3 for example
"Model 3 combines real world range, performance, safety and spaciousness into a premium saloon that only Tesla can build. Our most affordable car yet, Model 3 achieves 215 miles of range per charge while starting at only 35,000 USD before incentives. Model 3 is designed to attain the highest safety ratings in every category."
It doesn't exclude you or anyone else buying a car, it just means the share of people who own a car will fall.
Then I expect in 10 years electric cars will take over from petrol for a lot of people and by 2040 it will be a formality as the car makers will have already ceased combustion engine production leaving that to a few specialists
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The average journey length is laughable. The vast majority probably over estimate it
"Increases in the average distance travelled per person per year occurred in the three decades 1970 to 2000, for personal travel. This was largely due to increases in average trip lengths since the 1970s, which rose over 50% to 7 miles in 2014. However, since the early 2000s average distance and trip length have levelled off."
7 miles is the average
https://www.licencebureau.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/road-use-statistics.pdf
And this is why I think we should go more like many EU countries with good and extensive bike lanes as well as promote ebikes more. There's plenty of people who don't even walk a mile these days and drive that instead.
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I would imagine that's largely because of commuting though?
I commute 10 miles to work each way, but I use my car for a lot of longer distance journeys as well for work.
no, what was proposed by the poster quoted specifically did exclude me and/or anyone else owning a car:
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This is brainless, it's just the same old story blaming the car because it's easy to tax when it's not really the problem.
A vast amount of the pollution in this country doesn't come from private cars at all. It really wouldn't surprise me if we have to build multiple fossil fuel power stations just to support this but as long as the pollution doesn't come from the tailpipe of a car it's appears the pollution is just unicorns and fairy dust that can't harm anyone...
I also heard this morning that the Lib Dems want all diesel sales banned by 2025, this just shows how uneducated they are, do they think petrol emissions are just harmless?! If they need to ban diesels by 2025 then they need to ban petrols too the Euro 6 emissions from a diesel is virtually identical to a Euro 6 petrol anyway!.
I can't wait for 2025 where all ice cars have been tax'd out we can't do more than a few hundred miles in a car in one go, we have rolling blackouts and the public transport is overstretched due to everyone having to own a car that can't go any decent distance!
A vast amount of the pollution in this country doesn't come from private cars at all. It really wouldn't surprise me if we have to build multiple fossil fuel power stations just to support this but as long as the pollution doesn't come from the tailpipe of a car it's appears the pollution is just unicorns and fairy dust that can't harm anyone...
I also heard this morning that the Lib Dems want all diesel sales banned by 2025, this just shows how uneducated they are, do they think petrol emissions are just harmless?! If they need to ban diesels by 2025 then they need to ban petrols too the Euro 6 emissions from a diesel is virtually identical to a Euro 6 petrol anyway!.
I can't wait for 2025 where all ice cars have been tax'd out we can't do more than a few hundred miles in a car in one go, we have rolling blackouts and the public transport is overstretched due to everyone having to own a car that can't go any decent distance!
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I don't disagree, some people will, or maybe do 1 or 2 long journeys a year.
But the point is that a high percentage of journeys are already achieveable. Take the model 3 as the benchmark and assume it gets no better. Lets say 200 miles.
How many journeys do people do that would exceed that, where a short stop over would be some major hastle?
I own a car, yet once or twice a year I may hire a van as i need to shift some big stuff about. I don't own a van to cater for those 1 or 2 journeys.
So if the average car had 200 miles range, but you could hire/buy a much more expensive one that can do 600 if you regularly drive that or occasionally drive that surely it would make more sense.
There are other options like the range extender in the i3 for example (small petrol engine that recharges as you go)
Fair enough, but that's not what any companies are talking about. Just that the majority would decide to use a pay per use service rather than own outright.
Where does that say solar on cars also just the other day in the governer meeting he told them how it is not viable to put solar on car.
It was something along the lines of if you had a device that came out of the boot, unfolded and covered the entire car in solar and it was in a sunny country and in full sun you might get 20-30milea of range a day.
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To be honest I would have been tempted to buy a Model 3 if the boot had been more dog friendly.
Unfortunately it's a saloon style boot opening, not a hatchback.
Unfortunately it's a saloon style boot opening, not a hatchback.