Sale of petrol and diesel cars to be banned by 2040

[Jean-F]

It is its for the most polluting not all diesels.

Electric has a long way to go before i will touch one. I would want around 600 miles on a charge and that includes with the heater and gadgets on.

Also doesn't bode well for electric prices. Im going to dig my heals in and stick with my diesel for as long as i can.

I hope that sticking with your diesel works out well for you, I really do.
My wife was eventually worn down by the media's constant Chinese water torture of drip, drip, diesel bad, drip, diesel evil, drip, higher parking charges for diesel, drip, possible 50% loading on London Congestion Charge for diesels.
She sold her luxurious diesel Fiat Croma automatic, which she loved to bits, to a nephew, and bought a perfectly adequate brand new petrol Peugeot 2008 automatic.
Adequate is about right, it does the job, it goes from A to B quite reliably, but I get the feeling that after 10 years of sitting in Business Class, I'm now in Premium Economy.
Her nephew, who bought the Croma, and was overjoyed with it, has started to read all the diesel put-downs in the press, and is beginning to wonder if he jumped in too quick.

 

[Nasher]

There will come a time when you have no choice maybe not in your lifetime but certainly the next generation. Like those that said they didn't want speed limits or seat belts eventually you have no choice!

Except people will still be running "vintage" cars like they do now (on leaded, un-catted petrol even). Current cars will also be tax free by the time we get to 2040 unless they change everything. Then there will be those who convert old cars to EVs which is completely do-able.

But tbh, by then it's likely most people will be working from home. There won't be any reason to have an office because there will be so few physical jobs in this country.

 

[adolf hamster]

Future C (as envisaged by Tesla): All electric cars charge via solar panels on the roof.

Future D (as envisaged by Uber): No-one owns a car. You order up a self-driving car when you need it. In the unlikely event that it runs out of charge, you move to another vehicle.

as good as solar panels will be for trickling some extra power in, for heavy users it's not going to cut it to maintain power. for commuting sure it'll do the trick but any long trip is going to need either charging or battery swaps

as for future d, good lord no, a future where you ring up a car to go to work only to find some drunkard's chucked up in it the previous night. it wont work for exactly the same reason the vast majority of people own their own cars, outside of a big city it's just not going to work.

i'd wager there's going to be a massive push towards hydrogen tech and it'll end up not too dissimilar to how things are now (ie personal vehicles and fuel stations), we can but hope we aren't going to be generating all of this electricity/hydrogen in fossil fuel power plants though, because otherwise it'll be an exercise in futility.

cant say self driving cars will be as good as folk make out, for the same reason there's still pilots on planes- people want to feel their fate lies either in their hands or another human's hands. and of course as long as "manual" control is still a thing i don't think it'll mean a drop in insurance prices (how do they know you're always going to use the autopilot?)

 

[Cleisthenes]

luxurious diesel Fiat Croma

U wot?

 

[StriderX]

I just hope if they do do H-cell stations that they enforce an absolute no ignition source rule, a petrol station exploding is bad... a station full of Hydrogen? Thats a large bomb... if you can hit enough of it before it dissipates.

Probably not that hard to fix though, if they haven't already.

Oh and they will know everything about your car, it'll probably connect in someway to traffic control and the car maker.

 

[Nasher]

I just hope if they do do H-cell stations that they enforce an absolute no ignition source rule, a petrol station exploding is bad... a station full of Hydrogen? Thats a large bomb... if you can hit enough of it before it dissipates.

Probably not that hard to fix though, if they haven't already.

Batteries are explosive too and don't even need a flame

 

[V F]

by 2040 we wont need cars, surely by then we will all be transported by teleportation pods

I'm looking forward to Minority Report type of stuff.

 

[adolf hamster]

Oh and they will know everything about your car, it'll probably connect in someway to traffic control and the car maker.

true, its bad enough the state of insurance and these "black box" policies they're forcing onto young drivers these days, guess i'm lucky i've been able to avoid them

 

[Tunney]

as for future d, good lord no, a future where you ring up a car to go to work only to find some drunkard's chucked up in it the previous night. it wont work for exactly the same reason the vast majority of people own their own cars, outside of a big city it's just not going to work.

Why wouldn't it work, given sufficient data? Uber (or whoever else) will be able predict when you want to go to work and have a car ready nearby. All you'll have to do is tap a button on your phone(/cranial implant) and it'll be with you in minutes - even in a rural location.

And I'm sure that the cars will have ways of detecting when they've been soiled and will automatically go to be cleaned at night.

Or, as Tesla predict, people in rural areas will own their own self-driving cars that'll be useable as taxis for others when not in use.

 

[TallPaul1878]

But what about motorcycles. I can imagine nothing worse than a self driving electric motorcycle.

God the future sounds awful

 

[touch]

Current cars will also be tax free by the time we get to 2040 unless they change everything.

I'm sure VED will have changed by that time.

 

[Ayahuasca]

But what about motorcycles. I can imagine nothing worse than a self driving electric motorcycle.

God the future sounds awful

Might be pretty cool if you can do 200mph with little chance of accident due to all the AI systems in place, certainly better than overtaking a bus and ending up on ******** with your limbs spread out 20 metres apart.

 

[KNiVES]

the oil barons wouldnt let that happen, lots of brown envelopes will be handed out nearer the time

In 23 years time the oil barons will be polishing the boots of the renewable energy barons. They are a dying breed with one leg out of the door already. A hell of a lot can happen in 23 years and the writing's been on the wall for ages already. The free market has already devastated a lot of legacy fuel companies.

 

[Hawk Tuah]

In 23 years time the oil barons will be polishing the boots of the renewable energy barons. They are a dying breed with one leg out of the door already. A hell of a lot can happen in 23 years and the writing's been on the wall for ages already. The free market has already devastated a lot of legacy fuel companies.

Really? ExxonMobile and Shell seem to be doing pretty well still.

 

[Edrof]

So will this lead to a huge decline in the power wielded by dodgy Arab states or does most oil go to industry rather than transport anyway?

 

[adolf hamster]

Why wouldn't it work, given sufficient data? Uber (or whoever else) will be able predict when you want to go to work and have a car ready nearby. All you'll have to do is tap a button on your phone(/cranial implant) and it'll be with you in minutes - even in a rural location.

And I'm sure that the cars will have ways of detecting when they've been soiled and will automatically go to be cleaned at night.

Or, as Tesla predict, people in rural areas will own their own self-driving cars that'll be useable as taxis for others when not in use.

oh i'm not denying the cars ability to turn up on time, although i doubt people will want to let out their own personal car to a bunch of strangers, hell a lot of people are even picky as to letting people they know drive their cars.

as for detecting being soiled, technically possible although if you'd seen the state of some of the taxis around here it's sure as hell nowhere near the standard of keeping your own motor (although granted that one's subjective based on how much grubbiness you're prepared to accept)

 

[Nasher]

There are already wireless chargers so its not so far fetched.

AFAIK they have pretty poor efficiency though, since you lose a lot of energy just trying to get it to the device.

 

[Firestar_3x]

In 23 years time the oil barons will be polishing the boots of the renewable energy barons. They are a dying breed with one leg out of the door already. A hell of a lot can happen in 23 years and the writing's been on the wall for ages already. The free market has already devastated a lot of legacy fuel companies.

And today on the internet i learnt, NOTHING!

Still everyone is entitled to an opinion i suppose.

 

[KNiVES]

You haven't learned anything in years, don't worry about it.

 

[Glaucus]

So will this lead to a huge decline in the power wielded by dodgy Arab states or does most oil go to industry rather than transport anyway?

Probably not, like most countries/countries they see the future and allready investing heavily in changing. Even big oil companies are investing in renewables. They have the money to secure their future, it's just some companies seem blind and are likely to die out.