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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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Seems most logical to jump on Vega. It's got support for newer standards, stuff that Nvidia will bring when Volta launches. If I go 1080 I am going to be behind in terms of hardware support features.

Lets put it this way, if this was Volta that had just launched with an AMD launch 6-9 months away looming, I wouldn't think twice about buying... but AMD seems to be much harder. Like I've said my last ATI/AMD card was a 5870 and I moved over to Nvidia because I felt the drivers support was much better (Game Ready) and things like Physx appealed.

But I think this time round considering where we are in product launches and the fact I already have a Ryzen, Vega is most likely my next purchase.

If the 1080 had dropped in price, then maybe I could warrant the purchase but not at £500+.

Brazo said:
I can understand (sort of) people already owning a free sync monitor and thinking they are 'locked in' to AMD. They aren't of course but hey...

But I struggle to see why now after such a lacklustre vega release people are looking to buy a freesync monitor and tie themselves in to 'soon to be' last gen performance.
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The features and technology are there tho, support for the full DX12 feature set and the Nvidia cards are still full price +.

Obviously Volta will be another leap in performance but that's just how it always goes.

I mean the developers and games AMD have got on board are already impressive right?
 
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Brazo said:
I can understand (sort of) people already owning a free sync monitor and thinking they are 'locked in' to AMD. They aren't of course but hey...

But I struggle to see why now after such a lacklustre vega release people are looking to buy a freesync monitor and tie themselves in to 'soon to be' last gen performance.
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I have a Freesync monitor and do not feel locked in at all. There is a good chance my next GPU will be a xx70 Volta unless I like what I see in the reviews for Vega 56.
 
Zeed said:
Mate Pascal titam should hit my doorstep. Amd lost me Forever with VEGA waited since Pascal came out for something i could have had ages ago lol. Score is to compare to 1070 that 980ti is on pair.
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I wish I could afford to get a Titan, You're right AMD have messed us all around with Vega and if I didn't own a Freesync monitor I wouldn't still be considering one either.

ubersonic said:
Agreed a 980ti is more on par with a 1070, but for what it's worth the top video is a fake clickbait one.
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Is it, I've seen it floating around before and a google found it this time. The bottom video show's overclocked results and many have the 1080 well ahead, Some have them almost neck and neck too but that's more likely to be due to other limitations of it simply being optimised for Maxwell when Maxwell was King.

jonjay said:
There are enough results on here that show good overclocked 980ti's very close to a stock 1080. :)

Moral of my post is that people can get great used 980ti and the same cannot be said for AMD.
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It's likely to be one of the best secondhand card's at the moment.

disi said:
There are actual no breasts in the entire video!
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I know, I feel cheated :(
 
Brazo said:
I can understand (sort of) people already owning a free sync monitor and thinking they are 'locked in' to AMD. They aren't of course but hey...

But I struggle to see why now after such a lacklustre vega release people are looking to buy a freesync monitor and tie themselves in to 'soon to be' last gen performance.
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I'd of felt locked in if I'd had to pay the premium G-sync users do but that's not the case with Freesync monitor's.
 
melmac said:
I know plenty about how a PSU works. Do you how to read? I did say it wasn't overclocked. You really like to exaggerate things and make everything sound way worse than it actually is, RX Vega doesn't use 400W.

Do you know who Kyle Bennett is? He is the owner of HardOcp, the guy who actually has an RX Vega, the guy who is currently working on a review. So since neither us has a card and can't measure power use, I will take his word over yours.
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Wait for the PCper review. They test the card draw only which is a much better indicator by cutting out variables in the system.
The FE Liquid ran at 300W and 350W in it's two modes. The lower 300W mode was very similar to FE Air. The problem with Vega seems to be the wattage ramps up significantly when the TDP is exceeded.
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graph...-16GB-Liquid-Cooled-Review/Power-Consumption-
 
Brazo said:
I can understand (sort of) people already owning a free sync monitor and thinking they are 'locked in' to AMD. They aren't of course but hey...

But I struggle to see why now after such a lacklustre vega release people are looking to buy a freesync monitor and tie themselves in to 'soon to be' last gen performance.
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Because freesync doesent add price on monitor, so why not buy freesync monitor. Also with that logic you should not buy anything other than TitanXP or 1080ti for gaming, not everyone needs that much power to run their games. Lot of happy people playing with 1050/rx560 and even integrated Intel gpus.

Martini1991 said:
Where does this technology go? Amd make up a lot of buzzwords and it rarely goes anywhere.
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If you mean freesync, it will be coming to TVs and consoles support it. Its definetly not going to disapear.
If you mean FP16, PS4PRO already support it. XboxX doesent, but that is propably so game makers dont have to write new code to it when the same game needs to run Xbox One and XboxX. Ps4 doesent have FP16 ether. What is going to happen is when next gen consoles come out all of them will support FP16 because their technology will be based on Vega or Navi and it give more performance. Games are going to use it in future and Nvidia will propably support FP16 in their gaming line if not Volta, then on the next iteration.
 
I bought two Sapphire 290x 8gb vapor-x OC cards back when OCUk were doing the exclusive on these great cards.
Been very happy with them and they eat through all games at the res I run
Running a Samsung 27' IPS at 2560 x 1440p (with vsr turned on they run 3230 x 1800) quite easily in crossfire, although Rise of the Tomb raider gets them rather hot on ultra.

Really been hanging on for a worth while upgrade so the 14th can't come soon enough.

Hopefully Sapphire will work there vapor-x range into Vega..

Any news on how much longer after the aftermarket coolers will arrive??
 
B12B6 said:
Because freesync doesent add price on monitor, so why not buy freesync monitor. Also with that logic you should not buy anything other than TitanXP or 1080ti for gaming, not everyone needs that much power to run their games. Lot of happy people playing with 1050/rx560 and even integrated Intel gpus.
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Missing the point. Why buy an AMD card that offers same price/performance a year late knowing that nvidia will be making another big jump in price/performance relatively soon. That doesnt mean "only buy a 1080ti" it means whatever price bracket you are at, AMD arent offering a compelling upgrade path to the same timescales. People wanting 1080ti performance at 1070 prices are going to get that level sooner than waiting on AMD going by the last few years of what we've seen, so amortising the cost of a gsync monitor over a typical lifecycle of a monitor (5 years? More?) The difference in cost of the monitor becomes negligible.
 
five8five said:
Wait for the PCper review. They test the card draw only which is a much better indicator by cutting out variables in the system.
The FE Liquid ran at 300W and 350W in it's two modes. The lower 300W mode was very similar to FE Air. The problem with Vega seems to be the wattage ramps up significantly when the TDP is exceeded.
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graph...-16GB-Liquid-Cooled-Review/Power-Consumption-
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And yet, that shows that even the Vega FE liquid edition would be fine on a good 600W PSU. And it still doesn't change my point, the power requirements for RX Vega are been blown out of all proportions. There is no need for a 1000W PSU. Not to mention that most people that would be buying Vega cards would already have good PSUs so why is it counted in the cost of buying an RX Vega card?
 
andybird123 said:
Missing the point. Why buy an AMD card that offers same price/performance a year late knowing that nvidia will be making another big jump in price/performance relatively soon.
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Source? From everything I've seen, there's not much in Volta for gamers. At the very least nVidia haven't said anything about it for the consumer side, it seems to be largely pro focused.
 
Kaapstad said:
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The big question is, is Chris Hook lying or stupid? ^^
 
andybird123 said:
Missing the point. Why buy an AMD card that offers same price/performance a year late knowing that nvidia will be making another big jump in price/performance relatively soon. That doesnt mean "only buy a 1080ti" it means whatever price bracket you are at, AMD arent offering a compelling upgrade path to the same timescales. People wanting 1080ti performance at 1070 prices are going to get that level sooner than waiting on AMD going by the last few years of what we've seen, so amortising the cost of a gsync monitor over a typical lifecycle of a monitor (5 years? More?) The difference in cost of the monitor becomes negligible.
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That's not really true though is it? You have a Freesync monitor now and you need 1080 performance, you buy a Vega card to go with your Freesync monitor. It's going to be a hell of a lot more expensive to sell the freesync monitor and buy a gsync monitor. You are also going to be paying the higher prices from Nvidia too for those 5 years.

Volta could be another 6/7 months away. And if it follows the same release pattern as Pascal, then the Volta X80 cards will be at Ti prices for 6 months. So you could be waiting a year more to buy.
 
I got to test out a gtx1080ti Aurus extreme yesterday at my mates. It's a very impressive card not only in speed but is very quiet while boosting to over 2000mhz out of the box.

The interesting thing was we set up his old 4k Freesync with 5930k and 290x 8gb side by side for me to play on. When we did so it was so noticeable that Nvidia need to work on there stock colour setting as it was clear as day which one looked better. His kids came in and told him straight away that his old machine looked much better. We played Rocket League which the 290x could manage a capped 60fps so we could make the test fair as the 1080ti is so much faster. Freesync and G-Sync both done a great job as to where there was no noticeable difference. Just those washed out colours on the Nvidia side which were really bad in comparison. Seeing it side by side with your own eyes is something you can't refute as it's much more noticeable than you would think. The AMD side just popped and looked better. The G-Sync monitor is £350 more on here so it's not like it's a bad Panel thing and both were TN. I am sure he will be able to fix this but out of the box AMD are just far better in this regard.

Speed wise i can see why AMD might be struggling to keep up with a lower budget, as these 1080ti's are stupidly fast.
 
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