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Very odd no autopsy/coroners report into cause of death etc. Also have the police released a statement saying what the background info on the guy was?

No info means certain folk will grab onto the only info they do have...a dead black man killed by police.

When one feels persecuted all the time (rightly or wrongly) it gets harder and harder to take of the coloured spectacles through which they see the world.
 
Surfer said:
Very odd no autopsy/coroners report into cause of death etc. Also have the police released a statement saying what the background info on the guy was?

No info means certain folk will grab onto the only info they do have...a dead black man killed by police.

When one feels persecuted all the time (rightly or wrongly) it gets harder and harder to take of the coloured spectacles through which they see the world.
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Killed by the Police? He forced a load of drugs into his throat, he was killed by his own stupid self. If the protesters had an ounce of sense they'd look at the bigger picture and realise the Police are trying to help them and people like him are profiting off ruining young adult lives by selling them drugs.
 
Roar87 said:
Killed by the Police? He forced a load of drugs into his throat, he was killed by his own stupid self. If the protesters had an ounce of sense they'd look at the bigger picture and realise the Police are trying to help them and people like him are profiting off ruining young adult lives by selling them drugs.
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The fact that this "Community" (and those that campaign on this "Communities" part) seems to regard drug dealers and gun toting gangsters as heroes whose self inflicted demise are worthy of rioting over tells me pretty much everything I need to know about that "Community" and the campaigners who claim to represent them.

In My "Community", If a gun toting thug died by the sword at the hands of the Police or some drug dealer choked on his own filth while evading arrest. I would send the local nick a box of chocolates.

Something like this perhaps.... http://viz.co.uk/erm-cheers-pal/ :p
 
Roar87 said:
Killed by the Police? He forced a load of drugs into his throat, he was killed by his own stupid self. If the protesters had an ounce of sense they'd look at the bigger picture and realise the Police are trying to help them and people like him are profiting off ruining young adult lives by selling them drugs.
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Hopefully you were aware that i was not advocating that he was killed by the police...
 
Orionaut said:
The fact that this "Community" (and those that campaign on this "Communities" part) seems to regard drug dealers and gun toting gangsters as heroes whose self inflicted demise are worthy of rioting over tells me pretty much everything I need to know about that "Community" and the campaigners who claim to represent them.

In My "Community", If a gun toting thug died by the sword at the hands of the Police or some drug dealer choked on his own filth while evading arrest. I would send the local nick a box of chocolates.

Something like this perhaps.... http://viz.co.uk/erm-cheers-pal/ :p
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It's really hard for me to have any sympathy for these communities when they respond in the way they do. Work hard, get an education, continue to learn even when you're an adult in a full time job, aspire to be better than what ever level you're at professionally, and stop blaming other people for your lot in life. If they did all this suddenly all those obstacles that are supposedly race related would disappear. Or you can spend your evenings protesting dead drug dealers and ruining other peoples property and wasting Police resources.
 
Roar87 said:
Killed by the Police? He forced a load of drugs into his throat, he was killed by his own stupid self. If the protesters had an ounce of sense they'd look at the bigger picture and realise the Police are trying to help them and people like him are profiting off ruining young adult lives by selling them drugs.
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Here's kicker, they don't actually care. They just want an excuse to wave their pro-communist and BLM banners.

Morons.
 
I can't find anything on the cause of death for Rashan Charles. It's been eleven days since he died, his death is being used as an excuse for riots. Surely they must have a cause of death for it now and with people using it as evidence of "institutional racism" (Huffington Post) surely there is public interest in disclosing the cause. If, as seems highly likely, it was from him pushing packets of drugs down his own throat and trying to swallow them, that needs to be known to prevent further appropriation of his death for political purposes.
 
h4rm0ny said:
I can't find anything on the cause of death for Rashan Charles. It's been eleven days since he died, his death is being used as an excuse for riots. Surely they must have a cause of death for it now and with people using it as evidence of "institutional racism" (Huffington Post) surely there is public interest in disclosing the cause. If, as seems highly likely, it was from him pushing packets of drugs down his own throat and trying to swallow them, that needs to be known to prevent further appropriation of his death for political purposes.
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well the problem is that coroner etc.. aren't just going to speed things up because the victims happen to be in the demographic that tends to have a low IQ, low patience and potential to kick off... similar stuff with the Mark Duggan shooting or the various incidents in the US that BLM types decide to use to further their agenda

people then make their own narrative as with the Grenfell tower fire in London, obviously different type of incident but the conspiracy stuff, the supposed 400 dead people, 50 people in a single flat rumours etc.. didn't exactly help. People want instant answers, instant 'justice' (or retribution) and don't want to wait for things to be properly investigated, for procedure to be followed etc..
 
dowie said:
well the problem is that coroner etc.. aren't just going to speed things up because the victims happen to be in the demographic that tends to have a low IQ, low patience and potential to kick off... similar stuff with the Mark Duggan shooting or the various incidents in the US that BLM types decide to use to further their agenda

people then make their own narrative as with the Grenfell tower fire in London, obviously different type of incident but the conspiracy stuff, the supposed 400 dead people, 50 people in a single flat rumours etc.. didn't exactly help. People want instant answers, instant 'justice' (or retribution) and don't want to wait for things to be properly investigated, for procedure to be followed etc..
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All this I agree with. It's just that it surprises me that it should take eleven days to investigate cause of death. Am I wrong? Does it take that long for someone who swallowed packets of drugs? Of course this is outside my area of expertise. If I'm wrong and it does take longer, then absolutely we wait longer. I'm just surprised because I would have thought it was quicker.
 
I don't know how long is typical but I doubt they're deliberately slowing anything down just as I don't think they necessarily should need to make any exception or rush/fast track any particular cases. I don't doubt that perhaps the police already know what the likely cause of death is (whether that be drugs packets or something an officer did) but it would probably be irresponsible for them to start releasing or leaking stuff before an official report from the IPCC, a coroner etc...
 
Toxicology reports may take longer. If it was obvious as to the cause of death, injury, disease etc. it would be as quick as a pm report. However this would not necessarily be released until an inquest. There is no automatic need to know except for those directly involved, investigators, family etc.

If he was poisoned whether self administered or not, the substance must be identified before any release of information.
 
It would've gone to a forensic post mortem with a home office allocated pathologist within hours and a complete cause of death will be reliant on toxicology, possibly histology too. When we take tox at pm in my trust, it takes up to three weeks for results.
 
nkata said:
Toxicology reports may take longer. If it was obvious as to the cause of death, injury, disease etc. it would be as quick as a pm report. However this would not necessarily be released until an inquest. There is no automatic need to know except for those directly involved, investigators, family etc.

If he was poisoned whether self administered or not, the substance must be identified before any release of information.
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DailyGeek said:
It would've gone to a forensic post mortem with a home office allocated pathologist within hours and a complete cause of death will be reliant on toxicology, possibly histology too. When we take tox at pm in my trust, it takes up to three weeks for results.
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Thanks both. Seems I have unrealistic expectations then.
 
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