Well said. Consideration, civility and decency...a lost art for a great many.
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Well said. Consideration, civility and decency...a lost art for a great many.
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Really??
Decency and exposure laws are not there to just fend off predators who can't control their urges
It's about self respect, decorum and decency.
I wear trousers to work every day not to try and fend off unwanted attention but because it's the right thing to do.
All new buildings and refurbs have them now. Mother and baby changing rooms. I wonder if it's a legal requirement, because I've yet to see a new build or refurb that doesn't have them here.
I'm in two minds about this. If you start telling women they *must* cover up then breastfeeding starts to be seen as something shameful and that could lead to less women breastfeeding in general. Although when you have enough people with attitudes like some in this thread I kind of feel like it's always going to be a losing battle.
I'm willing to be proven wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure there's nothing in your trousers that's suitable for feeding a child. Breasts aren't just to give you something to play with during sex ffs.
OK so on this basis it's OK for woman to walk around in public topless ???
The indecency is in your mind. It is your problem, not theirs. It's you that believes a breast is not decent.
How on earth are you making wearing trousers into a moral issue?
As I mentioned in another post why do woman cover up their breasts as a normal matter of course then when they are not feeding if it's only me that sees it an unnecessary and indecent?
So why do we cover up at all? There's nothing shameful about the human body...right?
No, because that breaks indecency laws. Breastfeeding, however, does not.
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Generally speaking I tend to agree but she may just be making a point in response to being unreasonably treated. There's certainly a lot of very archaic attitudes towards breast feeding around - as evidenced in this thread.
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Just because I saw it, doesn't mean I was watching it.
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Absolutely - but she's also being a little OTT about it... and her kid is 1 so breast feeding is less important too. Had it been a newborn or a younger baby I'd be less inclined to find her protestations annoying.
That said your point is fair and valid.
But why not? The thing is fundamentally the same. Exposure of the breast.
Ok for feeding it's obviously functional but why then are other bodily functions and activities which require exposure of normally indecent parts of the body unacceptable?
What is the line?
As an example I suffer from a medical condition which means pretty.much at the drop of a hat my body will decide I need to have a crap. There is absolutely nothing I can do to stop it. Normally this involves a mad dash to the nearest toilet and luckily so far I've been successful on every occasion. However I often have to plan trips etc around access to facilities. It sucks. Believe me. Why am I not free to scootle off to say a flower bed or hedge to drop my guts?
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I hope you get over seeing a nipple in public. Might be worth going to your Doctor to get referred to a psychiatrist. You may be traumatised for life...
What indecency laws would those be, and how would they be broken just by a woman being topless?
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This is essentially what it comes down to. You should care about my feelings towards it, but I don't care about you.
Then she takes to twitter obviously because she knows it will get a reaction, part of me wonders whether these individuals enjoy creating some form of controversy.
As I mentioned a few pages ago I have no issue with a woman breastfeeding in public. My wife did it with our two.
And although not relevant to the example in the museum because she tried to cover up, my issue is with those mothers who just stick two fingers up and don't cover it because they don't have to.
As I have said before why the hell wouldn't you want to cover up??Kid attached or not it is still a part of your body which in normal course isn't exposed and you wouldn't want exposed if you are a normal functioning member of society.
We can talk about the right and the wrongs of society molding us to see breasts as something which should be covered up but in most cultures this concept is there.
And although not relevant to the example in the museum because she tried to cover up, my issue is with those mothers who just stick two fingers up and don't cover it because they don't have to.
As I have said before why the hell wouldn't you want to cover up??Kid attached or not it is still a part of your body which in normal course isn't exposed and you wouldn't want exposed if you are a normal functioning member of society.
We can talk about the right and the wrongs of society molding us to see breasts as something which should be covered up but in most cultures this concept is there.
It's only not exposed in the normal course of events because in the normal course of events it's not exposed. There is no good reason why it couldn't or shouldn't be exposed. The whole line of reasoning is circular.
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