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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%
  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%
  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%

  • Total voters
    528
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Per mining: The bottom line is -ALL- mining, no matter what you're doing to the card, is an unusual, not a-typical usage situation for the hardware. It's not designed for that type of work load with consumer grade hardware. Mining significantly shortens the lifespan of a GPU the longer it's run under mining loads. End of story, no further discussion needed.

Everyone on the internet knows this. What really gets me is people on ebay that sell their cards after they've been "mined out" for 2+ years 24-7 and don't disclaim it in the listing. -THAT- is deceitful and dishonest to the N'th Degree. Some random sap will buy it for gaming thinking they're getting a good card then it'll fail on em in a few months for gaming, but may still work for mining.

Almost everyone on ebay does this. I private message a lot of sellers of GTX 1080's and ask about mining, and they own up to mining with it in messages, but won't update their listings. It should be considered fraud by ebay, but they don't care.

I've been told by a few friends on the internet shopping for a new card recently that in the USA, local "Brick and mortar" stores like Fry's Electronics and Best Buy are currently actively refusing video cards on returns unless they can prove it's defective, and Fry's is even doing bench testing in the returns center on all returned cards now, including short 3dmark passes. and if they show obvious artifacts in benchmarks but otherwise appear to work, they refuse the returns as customer damage due to the high return rate from miners. And if the cards work normally with no issues, they also refuse the returns.

This is what mining has done to the retail space for normal gaming consumers, at least over here.

On top of us gaming customers being made nervous wrecks about trying to buy new cards before they're sold out on day 1 just because miners will be buying them all up too.

Coin mining is a plague on the entire GPU industry.

I agree its not good for the card.

I used my GPU last week for hashcat usage, I believe this is very similar to mining in how it loads up the card, previously my 1070 has never ever hit the 70s temperature wise and I have only seen it even in the 60s in very high loads such as 4x sgssaa. Hashcat had my card in the mid 70s, I actually restricted the power limit to 50% in afterburner as I didnt like how the card was been stressed, even at 50% power limit which was allowing about a 1700mhz clock the card was still in the low 60s. So still loaded heavier than any game or benchmark I have thrown at it.
 
So, bearing in mind how a company like AMD works and the GPU development cycles, does the delay in VEGA have any knock on effect for Navi?

Will the engineering team working on Navi have been continuing their work as an autonomous group, therefore leaving Navi on track for it's original release window?

If past launches are anything to go by it shouldn't affect the next card in line, the x1800xt had a delay because a third party component was malfunctioning on the board and it took a while to track it down. But the x1900xt launched i think maybe 2-3 months after the x1800xt did as it was still on track with no issues.
 
If past launches are anything to go by it shouldn't affect the next card in line, the x1800xt had a delay because a third party component was malfunctioning on the board and it took a while to track it down. But the x1900xt launched i think maybe 2-3 months after the x1800xt did as it was still on track with no issues.

So maybe it won't be too long before someone starts ***The AMD Navi Thread*** then :P

I wonder if it will end up being 514 pages of speculation, hopes, dreams and disappointment too :D
 
So maybe it won't be too long before someone starts ***The AMD Navi Thread*** then :p

I wonder if it will end up being 514 pages of speculation, hopes, dreams and disappointment too :D

514 pages lol if only you knew..........they had to close the other Vega thread because it got so large it was slowing down the server.
 
Any chance of a quick summary for those of us without speakers?

Basically your better off getting a blower vega 64 and either putting a waterblock on it or a different cooler entirely. As it is exactly the same as the Frontier edition cooler which is pretty crap when it comes to overclocking and the card is pulling 450w+.

You can get the standard card with waterblock for the same price that the watercooled edition is.

He also states it could be worthwhile getting a VEGA 56 and flash it, as long as things like HBM voltage or other memory differences aren't holding it back it could be near enough 64 performance.
 
If past launches are anything to go by it shouldn't affect the next card in line, the x1800xt had a delay because a third party component was malfunctioning on the board and it took a while to track it down. But the x1900xt launched i think maybe 2-3 months after the x1800xt did as it was still on track with no issues.
That was ATI.
 
GTX 480 took a long time going from the wood screw edition to a working card.
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Any chance of a quick summary for those of us without speakers?

From the section of it I just watched he say's nothing worth the time it takes to watch it, Sadly I wasted mine and can't get it back but at least I didn't waste a whole video's worth, His summary of the blower model is basically what any nerd with an internet connection can tell you, It'll be hot and loud. Then as he moved on to the water cooled edition or what he likes to call the AMD fanboy water cooled edition I'd learnt enough to switch him off, I struggle to understand why anyone would like channels like that. Each to his own.
 
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