Buying painkillers at Sainsburys

Isn't it only those containing paracetamol that the law limits, however most store computer systems don't allow that level of customisation and store staff tend to be cautious or taught to apply it to all painkillers?

You overestimate how much of this is down to store staff and its definitely not a system limit. It's all very deliberate.

The self scan is automated to demand a cashier authorise age restricted goods and limit to 2 packs of ibuprofen or paracetamol.

A regular till is automated with a prompt and the cashier is not meant to allow more than 2 packs.

Sure if a cashier wants to they can ignore their prompts and training and put whatever through but they are not meant to. An actual pharmacy may be different as they have to have a trained pharmacist around.

Right or wrong or well intentioned it gets decided very remotely to the store you visit and the staff follow the instructions.

Crazy. If I was determined enough to overdose I would just keep going from shop to shop.

It's to be a hindrance to easily getting a stack of pills at once. You as you say would have to repeatedly buy multiple packs and the system forces you to have human interaction for each transaction.

Can't stop you, might discourage you.
 
Isn't it only those containing paracetamol that the law limits, however most store computer systems don't allow that level of customisation and store staff tend to be cautious or taught to apply it to all painkillers?

Exactly, all tarred with the same brush, better safe than sorry said the Tesco lawyers and thus was the nature of the beep beep.

Paracetamol poisoning is an awful way to go, so probably for the best in the end.
 
paracetamol poisoning in particular is meant to be a horrible death, in the occasional dark time i've contemplated such things using prescription drugs has never been on the table of possible methods.

you are right, there was a horizon documentary a while ago discussing execution methods and as you say inert gas poisoning was flagged as the most "humane", apparently the pure gas allows c02 to exit the body normally, and it's c02 build up that normally triggers the "oh **** i'm dying" response, and as such people will die in a sort of euphoria unaware of the lack of oxygen feeding them.
Didn't Jeremy Clarkson do something like that on a documentary, if I remember rightly he was in low oxygen chamber the instructor told him to put his oxygen mask back on or he would die, he just giggled so the instructor had to put it on for him.
 
They cost about 3 to 4 quid a box when i first moved to Sweden. I started buying 10s of boxes when i was in the UK and brought them over.

Same reasons, to stop suicide attempts. I think they have come down a lot recently but they are still well regulated compared to the UK.
 
Didn't Jeremy Clarkson do something like that on a documentary, if I remember rightly he was in low oxygen chamber the instructor told him to put his oxygen mask back on or he would die, he just giggled so the instructor had to put it on for him.

Destin Sandlin (SmarterEveryDay) did, interesting video


Somebody else has to put his mask back. watch from about 6m onwards, when the hypoxia sets in his awareness goes out the window completely.
 
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In my experience of dealing with suicidal people at work people who take pain killer overdoses tend to be the more impulsive type of suicidal patient. A significant number of whom, while feeling like they want to die in the moment they take the pills, are likely to change their mind. Perhaps this is partly because death is not instantaneous with painkillers. Regardless, once the tablets are taken its very difficult to reverse the effects, and obviously the larger the quantity, the harder it is. A significant number of painkiller overdoses I deal with are those impulsively taking an overdose after, for example, a drunken arguement with their partner. Most of whom immediately regret it, somecof ehom will finally die of liver or renal problems anyway. Those more 'seriously' suicidal tend to employ less passive methods, more instant methods such as jumping, hanging, and in America, shooting themselves.

You probably won't ever stop someone who is determined to end their life from finally succeeding, but making it harder for people to acquire enough paracetamol to kill themselves gives the impulsive patient time to begin to calm down, and perhaps change their mind, or seek help before they harm themselves. It might also impress on them the seriousness of what they're doing. All of this is, in my opinion, a good thing. Even if it is annoying when I've medium term pain, like a sports injury, and am trying to stock up
 
Back when I was into extracting codeine from over the counter stuff, I used to get some right funny looks when asking if I could have a look at the various painkillers and started reading the back. Still sold them too me without so much as a second thought though.
 
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Die Katzen sind sub-menschlich und sollten getötet werden, um sie aus ihren minderwertigen Genen zu retten!!!!

edit: before someone translates that, i have 2 cats and i love them dearly :D
I can only understand the first bit of that (barely), and Google translate is just cheating :p

The cats are sub-human and should become dead, in order that you out (?) your something something to something.

That's probably all wrong. I should have concentrated (no pun intended) harder at school.
 
The same reason why all the painkillers are in those foil slots.

Time.

It takes time and effort to go to separate stores for separate time and effort, which is crucial, it could and probably does save lives.

Virtually all medication is sold like that because it helps preserve them.
 
Paracetamol and Asprin do nothing for me, and Ibuprofen do nothing unless I eat them like smarties. Codeine based stuff however seems to do the trick when i have toothache or a banging headache. When I'm at work my colleagues (who have an array of back issues) tend to keep me well fed on painkillers if i need them, mainly Dihydrocodeine and Tramadol lol.

Tramadol is always an interesting one as i can sit there, have no feeling in my legs what so ever (despite them functioning fine) and be buzzing my **** off lol.

I understand why they limit painkillers at supermarkets but anyone determined to try to top themselves will just go to multiple shops to buy the max they can
 
Crazy. If I was determined enough to overdose I would just keep going from shop to shop.

A significant proportion of suicides are unplanned. Making it more inconvenient to kill yourself reduces the number of suicides. The image of suicide being a well planned thing with a note and so forth is far from always true. It's true that a person who is determined enough to overdose could just keep going from shop to shop, but a significant proportion of people who are suicidal aren't determined enough for long enough to do that.

It's a minor irritation sometimes, but only that. In almost all cases, 2 small packets is enough. In almost cases when it isn't, buying bigger packets from a pharmacist isn't a big deal. It's a reasonable trade-off.

EDIT: My favourite "You know, that doesn't really make sense" thing is that you need to be over 18 to buy disposable plastic picnic "cutlery" if it includes "knives". I write "knives" deliberately because they're not knives in any relevant way. Blunt, flimsy, vaguely knife-shaped objects. I would be more concerned about someone attacking me with a packet of Polos.
 
EDIT: My favourite "You know, that doesn't really make sense" thing is that you need to be over 18 to buy disposable plastic picnic "cutlery" if it includes "knives". I write "knives" deliberately because they're not knives in any relevant way. Blunt, flimsy, vaguely knife-shaped objects. I would be more concerned about someone attacking me with a packet of Polos.

You think that's bad? I'm not sure if it's changed now due to the silliness of it, but a couple of years back Wilkos used to require the assistant to verify your age when buying spoons. I wonder if some jobsworth sat in their windowless office had seen this documentary and got worried. :D

 
people kill themselves on painkillers, so the decision was made some years ago to limit purchase of painkillers to 2 packets without seeing a pharmacy counter
Irritating yes, stopped overdoses yes.
Now ibuprofen,(which is best for dental pain) doesn't tend to cause overdoses, but in a simplification of a system, everything got tarred with the same brush.

Thus the effect you saw demonstrated.
This. You need to understand that a lot of research and thought goes on behind the scenes for these conclusions. Mistakes can be made but its worked out on stats.
 
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