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McDonalds workers due to strike for £10 an hour...
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I think he's a tax accountant actually
He was talking about when he was a student
Hey, I'm a capitalist and I think they have a right to strike! Negotiation is a fundamental right - otherwise you're talking about slavery with tips. The only point at which I start disputing this is if they start harassing / intimidating others that do choose to work.
I'm less concerned about the wage, to be honest, and more concerned about zero hours contracts with pseudo-random schedules. How is someone supposed to better themself when they're tied to a random, low-hours schedule?
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Even worse!I think he's a tax accountant actually
He was talking about when he was a student
Yeah on an individual level that's possible, but we're talking about the vast majority of low paid people unhappy with their salary walking out to fix the issue according to peige who I originally quoted. That simply isn't feasible, soon as you go someone else will fill your place on the same or even lower salary and it continues as is, you'd need a mass walkout and nobody willing to work those jobs for anything to change.
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Off to the gulag you go hahahaCareful, I'm an accountant as well
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We the proletariat need to imprison the bourgeois and seize the means of production brother!
Please, teach me your ways! If it was someone working full time at, say the Cinema, they had their contract changed from 35 hours to zero hours and then the shifts stopped - I would almost say that was constructive dismissal. Most cases it isn't that way and zero hour contracts work fine.
I think he's a tax accountant actually
He was talking about when he was a student
Bet they are dying to get this fully in place. Would save them a lot of money.
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the companies that offer these should really have the option to do either or. that is the problem. there is no option. some people actually prefer zero hour contracts. in fact i had a weekend job that was zero hours. i chose when and where i wanted to do hours for a bit of extra cash. however if it was my main source of income i would be screwed as it's basically first come first served and if you weren't lucky enough to get picked all the time you would have very little income.
people who want set hours should be allowed to apply for and get them. it's when everyone is on zero hour contracts there is an issue. there should be a minimum number of set hours in such situations as an option.
They have actually said it won't lead to a reduction in staff, just the staff will be utilised in different ways
Believe that as you will
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Go for it. I feel minimum wage is a bit low.
once the self order menus are everywhere staff numbers will probably be cut within MCDS. If £10 per hour were to be put in place it would result in a annual salary of £20800 per year. Add on the national insurance the employer would need to to pay and employer pension contributions to be made it would be quite a hefty bill to put into place.(based on 40 hours) From my dealings with companies most see staff as a cost not an investment. Then most will begin to work less hours to make sure it doesnt effect the rest of their benefits.
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When I was a student I worked a couple of different minimum wage jobs. Be they in bars, restaurants or supermarkets. It was just a bit of pocket money really but they were always contracted to hours. Usually 12 or 16 with the option for more.Please, teach me your ways! If it was someone working full time at, say the Cinema, they had their contract changed from 35 hours to zero hours and then the shifts stopped - I would almost say that was constructive dismissal. Most cases it isn't that way and zero hour contracts work fine.
Zero hour contracts just weren't a thing then and it wasn't a problem.
I'm sure there are situations where a student might prefer a zero hour contract. I'm fine with that. My problem is that employment rights are being dodged by companies using zero hour contracts or employing people on a subcontract basis to do a job that a few years ago was a fully employed job (think delivery drivers etc).
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Iirc one of the execs at B&Q said they found it less expensive to use self scanners and accept a higher level of shoplifting than to have paid staff on the tills.
I'd like to see "customers" put that philosophy to the test.
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Universal Basic Income is coming.
It's only a matter of time. Technology is going to hit the service sector in the next 20 years. It's going to gut clerical and administrative jobs too.
I do see the irony in the push for better wages. It will only hasten the eventual replacement of human staff. I just hope that politicians get replaced with a machine too.
It's only a matter of time. Technology is going to hit the service sector in the next 20 years. It's going to gut clerical and administrative jobs too.
I do see the irony in the push for better wages. It will only hasten the eventual replacement of human staff. I just hope that politicians get replaced with a machine too.
Exactly, well put.