McDonalds workers due to strike for £10 an hour...

Not sure 'floor manager' still exists as a position. My son's gone crew>crew trainer>shift manager, with various performance related pay increases on the way.He started at 18 on min wage + 10p an hour, and is now on £9.10 an hour at 20.
He could have gone to uni like most of his friends, but he decided to go to work instead, and now instead of building up a large student debt, he's building up a large bank balance (just off 20k in Santander last time he showed me...)
Not bad for a 'McJob'.

Yeah they change the names of what the position is all the time. Unfortunatly cos i couldnt quote exactly it people feel the need to criticize.
 
Not at all, your just pedantic. As ive stated what manager she is.

How am I being pedantic when that is what you told us??? YOU stated that in your original post, how were we supposed to know that you didn't actually mean 30, but not until AFTER you told us she were a floor manager, you changed it 10/15. Like I say, you were just making stuff up to make your point...
 
How am I being pedantic when that is what you told us??? YOU stated that in your original post, how were we supposed to know that you didn't actually mean 30, but not until AFTER you told us she were a floor manager, you changed it 10/15. Like I say, you were just making stuff up to make your point...

Not at all, i dont know how many EXACTLY she manages. Also stated im not sure what manager she is. But still.. again again again you carry on. Ignored
 
Not at all, i dont know how many EXACTLY she manages. Also stated im not sure what manager she is. But still.. again again again you carry on. Ignored

So if you're not sure what her job is, how many people she manages and can't give a title that someone else who works at McDonald's can use as a reference from which to comment on then how do you expect anyone to comment on whether an extra 50p an hour is justifiable (or even trust that you've managed to get that figure correct)?

You seem to be angry that people have pointed out these things but they're not exactly trivial things.
 
I find it strange you know almost nothing about your wifes job, everyone I know who's married could give a solid description of their partners role and responsibilities.
 
Not at all, i dont know how many EXACTLY she manages. Also stated im not sure what manager she is. But still.. again again again you carry on. Ignored


So then how can you say that she 'only gets 50p an hour more and shes a manager who deals with 30 staff' when you don't actually know the facts...my whole point in the first place.. :D :D
 
Btw, catering is terribly paid so I wouldn't be confident about them getting what they want. For context, you get eg. senior chef de parties on something like £8.60/hour in the regions. That's proper chefs with a decade of experience :o. And that can easily be with split shifts/really late finishes/etc.
My ex worked as a housekeeper for a billionaire elderly couple in the USA.

They had their own chef to cook them breakfast, lunch and dinner whenever they were at home. Guy earned about $150k a year. Easy life!
 
they're probably overpaying a bit, unless he was poached from their favourite restaurant and part of that was compensating him for no longer having the potential to earn Michelin stars, get reviews/notoriety etc.. (then again most chefs aren't so...)

I'd assume they'd also want him to cater/oversee parties/functions etc.. and be available at any hour
 
Not married, so there goes that assumption. Also what has that got to do with anything to do with the thread?

My bad on assuming so but even as a partner I'm surprised you know that little, just seems weird you'd get miffed about her pay when you don't know a great deal about what she does.
 
Not married, so there goes that assumption.

You did say "My Mrs" which ok, can be a generic saying for partner, but it's understandable why we thought she was your wife

Also what has that got to do with anything to do with the thread?

Well, it is a bit odd you know so little about your partners job when questioned on the details, after initially using specific details of it as part of the discussion.
 
Well, it is a bit odd you know so little about your partners job when questioned on the details, after initially using specific details of it as part of the discussion.

And then changing those details to be even more specific and then claiming you don't know exact details.
 
You did say "My Mrs" which ok, can be a generic saying for partner, but it's understandable why we thought she was your wife



Well, it is a bit odd you know so little about your partners job when questioned on the details, after initially using specific details of it as part of the discussion.

never really used specifics just her pay and she manages so many people. I really dont understand the the questioning about everything, seems a bit obsessive, when its only to relay a point.

And because one person and his friends know every detail about there wifes work doesnt mean the rest of the worlds population do aswell.

I find it amazing everyone instead of saying anything constructive of relating to the thread itself just need to dig for detail about what i said when ive stated i dont know, just kind of immature in my opinion.
 
It was kind of relevant detail to have. There are various types of 'manager' it seems with rather varied pay, you seemingly made up the number of people she was responsible for so how can we also be sure that your figure re: pay is accurate?

You're not able to make a very good point in the first place if the basics of what you're talking about are unclear and to then act in a hostile manner when asked straightforward questions about them is a bit off.
 
I find it amazing everyone instead of saying anything constructive of relating to the thread itself just need to dig for detail about what i said when ive stated i dont know, just kind of immature in my opinion.

It was a very specific discussion on pay rates and responsibilities within McDonald's and the wider job market and what roles command what pay, so accuracy was important when discussing details.

There is quite a difference between a branch manager in charge of 30 staff and a shift manager in charge of 10 staff for example.

So it wasn't a personal attack when you were being questioned, just wanting to know the right information and you did seem to get a bit over defensive in your replies :)
 
It was a very specific discussion on pay rates and responsibilities within McDonald's and the wider job market and what roles command what pay, so accuracy was important when discussing details.

There is quite a difference between a branch manager in charge of 30 staff and a shift manager in charge of 10 staff for example.

So it wasn't a personal attack when you were being questioned, just wanting to know the right information and you did seem to get a bit over defensive in your replies :)

Well your reply here is written in a none demeaning manner, so i can reply simply and easy without defense. Unfortunately, I do not know what kind of manager she is, i just knew she got paid £9 an hour and looked after so many people. Which as people replyed is a certain type of manager and my point i would say is still valid, 50p increase of wage for responsibility of any number of people is unreasonable. And people making comments saying that all the job merits is offensive.
 
The major problem here is nobody should be applying for a burger flipping job expecting a reasonable income.

It's not a career (unless you join straight from school and still live with folks and work your way up)

It's a pocket money job, my son did it at Burger King, rubbish hours, rubbish pay, but it paid for his car over the summer and gave him a bit of cash for Uni.

That's all they are.
 
The major problem here is nobody should be applying for a burger flipping job expecting a reasonable income.

It's not a career (unless you join straight from school and still live with folks and work your way up)

It's a pocket money job, my son did it at Burger King, rubbish hours, rubbish pay, but it paid for his car over the summer and gave him a bit of cash for Uni.

That's all they are.

Not really some people didnt get the qualifications they needed, or some people have no options due to many reasons no reason they shouldnt be paid fairly. Theres many social factors that mean people even after education need to have jobs like this.
 
Getting minimum wage (or thereabouts) for flipping burgers probably is being paid 'fairly'. I'd be interested to know what sort of work people deem suitable for minimum wage if this doesn't count?
 
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