EVGA 1080 ICX SC2 or FTW2

Robert · 26 Aug 2017 at 10:53

Was going for the SC2, but is it worth the extra for the FTW2?

Ayahuasca · 26 Aug 2017 at 11:31

Doesn't really matter, just get whichever is cheapest.

Pillendreher · 26 Aug 2017 at 11:39

I'm also looking into these two cards at the moment. So far I've found this on their differences:

I also found this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/6dxlqi/help_me_pick_what_version_evga_1080_to_get/di6cxp1/

Also regarding phases:

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6583-KR

This page says 5+1 for the SC2 and 14+3 for the FTW2.

Sasahara · 26 Aug 2017 at 11:56

10+2 for the FTW2, the 14+3 is the classified gaming card. Not that it will likely ever need it.

The fact that the GTX 1080 ti Kingpin has 10+3 shows 14+3 is just overkill.

Pillendreher · 26 Aug 2017 at 11:58

Sasahara said:
10+2 for the FTW2, the 14+3 is the classified gaming card. Not that it will likely ever need it.

The fact that the GTX 1080 ti Kingpin has 10+3 shows 14+3 is just overkill.

Yeah my bad, got the wrong row.

I think I read somewhere that even 10 phases is just unnecessary for the 1080.

Qitarah · 26 Aug 2017 at 12:16

Out of the two models you have listed, the sc2 has the newer/updated memory (11016 mhz vs the 10k of the older stuff)

Pillendreher · 26 Aug 2017 at 12:43

Qitarah said:
Out of the two models you have listed, the sc2 has the newer/updated memory (11016 mhz vs the 10k of the older stuff)

Afaik that's not the newer memory, but just the possibility of overclocking the slower memory:

https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-GeForc...11GHz-BIOS-Update-Available-Now-m2652350.aspx

Qitarah · 26 Aug 2017 at 13:44

Ah-ha. Good to know, thanks.

Pillendreher · 26 Aug 2017 at 13:47

Yeah, I didn't know it either initially. Apparently EVGA isn't using the faster memory. They're basically telling you 'Go ahead and see if you can overclock your memory'.

Minusorange · 26 Aug 2017 at 14:48

Pits the ACX vs ICX versions but it'll give you an idea of how the FTW2 compares to the SC2

spinrs2k · 26 Aug 2017 at 18:06

Pillendreher said:
Yeah, I didn't know it either initially. Apparently EVGA isn't using the faster memory. They're basically telling you 'Go ahead and see if you can overclock your memory'.

Not really as crude as that, they have released newer bios that you can download and flash that change the memory speed to 11,000mhz for both SC2 and FTW2 so if you want the faster memory speeds then flash the bios.

Reports on the EVGA forums say they are seeing a nice bump in benchmarks so they suspect other changes have happened as well.

Pillendreher · 26 Aug 2017 at 18:10

spinrs2k said:
Not really as crude as that, they have released newer bios that you can download and flash that change the memory speed to 11,000mhz for both SC2 and FTW2 so if you want the faster memory speeds then flash the bios.

Reports on the EVGA forums say they are seeing a nice bump in benchmarks so they suspect other changes have happened as well.

Oh I didn't mean it in a negative way. I just wante to pass along what I found out while researching these cards.

spinrs2k · 26 Aug 2017 at 18:13

Pillendreher said:
Oh I didn't mean it in a negative way. I just wante to pass along what I found out while researching these cards.

course, i was more doing same too

. we'll worth updating bios if you have either of these cards

Robert · 27 Aug 2017 at 09:17

Only thing putting me off is it feels like pascal has been around for ages...but then Volta seems so far away.

Robert · 27 Aug 2017 at 10:23

Minusorange said:
Pits the ACX vs ICX versions but it'll give you an idea of how the FTW2 compares to the SC2

Yeah...of the Ti!

TNA · 27 Aug 2017 at 10:44

Robert said:
Only thing putting me off is it feels like pascal has been around for ages...but then Volta seems so far away.

You are not the only one feeling this mate. It is the only thing that stopped me from picking up a 1080Ti Aorus Xtreme a few days ago.

Having had a 1070 and 1080 feels like buying a 1080Ti now it will be old tech in around 6 months time when everyone will be playing with their nice new shiny Volta. I will grab a 2070 Aorus xtreme on release and then consider grabbing the Volta Titan after when it comes out.

TJM · 27 Aug 2017 at 13:22

Robert said:
Only thing putting me off is it feels like pascal has been around for ages...but then Volta seems so far away.

I'm also stuck on the fence.

The x070 will probably match the 1080Ti's performance and cost significantly less, but it's the best part of a year away, it will still cost more than £400 and I'll find myself in the same position of considering whether to replace my x070 with an x080Ti. I'm leaning towards just jumping on the Ti product cycle as soon as a decent deal comes up and skipping the x070/80.

Minusorange · 27 Aug 2017 at 14:20

Robert said:
Yeah...of the Ti!

I posted wrong link

That should be the one

V F · 27 Aug 2017 at 15:29

Robert said:
Only thing putting me off is it feels like pascal has been around for ages...but then Volta seems so far away.

TNA said:
You are not the only one feeling this mate. It is the only thing that stopped me from picking up a 1080Ti Aorus Xtreme a few days ago.

Having had a 1070 and 1080 feels like buying a 1080Ti now it will be old tech in around 6 months time when everyone will be playing with their nice new shiny Volta. I will grab a 2070 Aorus xtreme on release and then consider grabbing the Volta Titan after when it comes out.

...but it is mature. Look at AMD, it is new and shiny yet not delivering for so many.

TNA · 27 Aug 2017 at 19:31

V F said:
...but it is mature. Look at AMD, it is new and shiny yet not delivering for so many.

Pascal was pretty much mature on release, I suspect with the resources Nvidia have that Volta will be also. Surely you are not expecting Volta to perform worse than Pascal?