Climbing Everest

Roar87 said:
Some do. Some just give up in the death zone because of how cold and exhausted they are, their brain just tells them they need to sleep for a few minutes and eventually they give in, then they don't wake up.

Go climb Kilimanjaro as someone else said, you'll have great views and it's very much doable for someone of a reasonable fitness level.
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I imagine its like when your stupid drunk, and you think, I'll just lie down here on the pavement for a sec :D
 
new boy said:
Pretty high chance of dying though isn't there? Fair play if it floats your boat though
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I believe historically, it is around 2%. Similar to riding the Shuttle (Which I would nevertheless have done in a heart beat had I had the opportunity. :D)

Unless they have cleaned the place up recently, Higher up the mountain, the dead lie where they fall, so you get to walk past dozens (or more) of dead people on your ascent, just to remind you of where you are...!:/
 
Orionaut said:
I believe historically, it is around 2%. Similar to riding the Shuttle (Which I would nevertheless have done in a heart beat had I had the opportunity. :D)

Unless they have cleaned the place up recently, Higher up the mountain, the dead lie where they fall, so you get to walk past dozens (or more) of dead people on your ascent, just to remind you of where you are...!:/
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Initially, I thought, that's not too bad. But thinking about it, its actually pretty terrible odds given the stake.
 
new boy said:
Initially, I thought, that's not too bad. But thinking about it, its actually pretty terrible odds given the stake.
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Would you play Russian Roulette with a standard 6 chambered revolver?

No, of course not.

Would you play Russian Roulette with a 50 chambered revolver??

Hmnnnn.:/
 
dowie said:
Not sure I'd want to attempt Everest per say, it does seem that some rich people essentially pay sherpas to almost drag them up the thing and will make use of fixed ropes etc...
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This and it's actually becoming a big problem and putting other climbers in danger.
 
I'd imagine to climb Everest you'd need to be pretty damn fit. I've climbed over 4000m in the Alps and consider myself in good shape but the altitude really made things hard, especially on a very long day. I can't think of anything worse than going up Everest though. A long soul destroying snow plod at altitude, surrounded by hundreds of other people isn't my idea of fun.

Rroff said:
Prefer Cader Idris myself though haven't been in awhile but the slightly more towards technical paths were a lot less busy than Snowdon and when you get to the top there are a lot less people who look like they've put no effort in to get there heh.

EDIT: Looks like Fox's path, etc. aren't really recommended any more on Cader due to erosion and increased amounts of scree.
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Cader is a lovely mountain, Cyfrwy Arete by the Table Direct is one of my favourite routes!
 
Orionaut said:
I believe historically, it is around 2%. Similar to riding the Shuttle (Which I would nevertheless have done in a heart beat had I had the opportunity. :D)

Unless they have cleaned the place up recently, Higher up the mountain, the dead lie where they fall, so you get to walk past dozens (or more) of dead people on your ascent, just to remind you of where you are...!:/
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It is closer to 6%, although it somewhat depends onw aht statistics you use as Everest has a lot of people that aren;t serieous and will be forced back form camp 1/
http://www.8000ers.com/cms/download.html?func=startdown&id=184




Still, other peaks are much more serious undertaking because they are more more technical, more exposed, higher objective dangers, worse weather. 0-37$ fatality rates is pretty serious!


Everest is mostly just a long slog in queue of people while you wait for your oxygen tank to empty. I expect Everest will see much better stats in the future because apparently the Hillary step collapsed in the earthquake, and that was the main issue because the sherpas could do only so mcuh to drag fat rich tourist over the only technical section. People would spend hours there just standing around in the death zone, the weather would change or you get HAPE and then its gaem voer.
 
Street said:
I'd imagine to climb Everest you'd need to be pretty damn fit. I've climbed over 4000m in the Alps and consider myself in good shape but the altitude really made things hard, especially on a very long day. I can't think of anything worse than going up Everest though. A long soul destroying snow plod at altitude, surrounded by hundreds of other people isn't my idea of fun.



Cader is a lovely mountain, Cyfrwy Arete by the Table Direct is one of my favourite routes!
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You don;tneed to be fit. you can acclimitise to 5000m or so relatively easily with time. above that you just get an oxygen bottle shoved in you pack and are dragged up by sherpas.
 
Rroff said:
That is an actual technical route right? I've not done that one.
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Yeh, if you skip the Table Direct start it takes it down to a grade 3 scramble though.

D.P. said:
You don;tneed to be fit. you can acclimitise to 5000m or so relatively easily with time. above that you just get an oxygen bottle shoved in you pack and are dragged up by sherpas.
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I guess they are out there a long time so plenty of time to acclimatise, however I'd rather be fit enough to do it myself than get dragged up it.
 
dunno if you know exactly what's involved in climbing to those altitudes. i didn't know much either but if you read Dave Lee Roth's book it's quite eye-opening. very real risk of losing toes and fingers from frostbite, cold that can pop the fillings out your teeth etc. would be a Hell of an achievement, but w/ those risks....i'll pass.
 
I looked into this briefly having done many UK peaks the more technical routes (without needing ropes) and I thought about doing something more of a challenge.

The licence to do it just seems daft, but I guess anything remotely interesting is commercialised and touristy in some way these days. It certainly takes away the romance of the challenge.

The chance of death doesn't bother me, it's the losing fingers and toes for some reason. But I'd still have a go. I certainly want to a major peak in the world before I'm 40. OcUK field trip anyone?
 
I am sure a lot of you will have seen this. Joe Simpson, what a story. Just thought I'd add that in there. I doubt I will be doing the Siula Grande either.

 
I'm no expert unlike the rest of the forum by all accounts, but I'm pretty sure they don't just let anyone climb Everest, even if you have the cash.
 
Why anyone want to do this is beyond me.. I hear that the base camps have become nothing more than dumping grounds and resemble **** holes..

Jump in a plane, you get the same views.
 
Street said:
I'd imagine to climb Everest you'd need to be pretty damn fit. I've climbed over 4000m in the Alps and consider myself in good shape but the altitude really made things hard, especially on a very long day. I can't think of anything worse than going up Everest though. A long soul destroying snow plod at altitude, surrounded by hundreds of other people isn't my idea of fun.
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I actually found it worse at 4000m, spent about a week at that altitude by a lake doing acclimatisation treks, I was at the base camp area staying at a bit over 5000m and doing treks over 6000m but by that time I'd been in the Himalayas for a few weeks (trip was for 6 weeks in total) it was the first 4-5 days I spent at 4000m that was the killer, worst headache ever (the days prior to that I'd been trekking at around 3000meters+)... also the way altitude affects you seemingly has little to do with your personal fitness levels.
 
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