Vega 64 or 1080

Brazo · 4 Sep 2017 at 11:05

shankly1985 said:
Why do you keep posting this rubbish? "heavily flawed and a good drop slower than an oc'd 1080" I proven you wrong last week was that not enough? Here Raw footage and the RX VEGA 64 wins just has much it looses !!! Just please stop! They on Par with each other! it all comes down to the Games being played and the Resolution also matters.
1080p

1440p

4K

You haven't proved me wrong on anything matey.

Would you like me to link you to the tech power up review that shows a much wider spread of games (35) that shows the vega on average some way of a stock 1080fe? Because you know I can. The same review (one of many I might add) that said far more negative things about Vega than I can (or will).

Heavily flawed. Well yes.

Huge power draw.
Noisy
Hot
Lacking in performance and that's not including the elephant in the room (1080ti).
Poor at VR
Poor quality control at launch.
No crossfire support
Important features turned off.

I'm sorry I know your a huge AMD fan and this hurts you but the writing was on the wall a long time ago and only the delusional can ignore it.

Brazo · 4 Sep 2017 at 11:10

Kaapstad said:
When overclocked on the benches the Vega64 is just ahead of the GTX 1080 but it only by a small margin.

Not on this one.

spoffle · 4 Sep 2017 at 11:22

leekeene said:
yea but its not just 1080p is it

its 2 x 1080p screen obviously ill only game on one a time but the rift is 1080×1200 at 90fps x2

That's not double 1080P. 1080P is 1920x1080, not 1080x1200.

ubersonic · 4 Sep 2017 at 11:28

spoffle said:
That's not double 1080P. 1080P is 1920x1080, not 1080x1200.

Indeed, two times 1080x1200 is actually lower than 2560x1080 (a standard 21:9 res) and these cards have no issue maxing out games at that res.

shankly1985 · 4 Sep 2017 at 12:24

Martini1991 said:
Do any of these actually include overclocks? Given that's his statement.

All GPUs have OC in the title DF always like to overclock there stuff.

shankly1985 · 4 Sep 2017 at 12:25

Brazo said:
You haven't proved me wrong on anything matey.

Would you like me to link you to the tech power up review that shows a much wider spread of games (35) that shows the vega on average some way of a stock 1080fe? Because you know I can. The same review (one of many I might add) that said far more negative things about Vega than I can (or will).

Heavily flawed. Well yes.

Huge power draw.
Noisy
Hot
Lacking in performance and that's not including the elephant in the room (1080ti).
Poor at VR
Poor quality control at launch.
No crossfire support
Important features turned off.

I'm sorry I know your a huge AMD fan and this hurts you but the writing was on the wall a long time ago and only the delusional can ignore it.

Give me raw footage, not some on paper graphs they mean nothing.

Martini1991 · 4 Sep 2017 at 12:52

shankly1985 said:
All GPUs have OC in the title DF always like to overclock there stuff.

Where's the proof? I see the CPU's are OC, but I don't see the GPU's as having OC's

Kaapstad · 4 Sep 2017 at 12:57

shankly1985 said:
All GPUs have OC in the title DF always like to overclock there stuff.

Can not remember when the last time was I bought a card with OC in the title.

ubersonic · 4 Sep 2017 at 13:01

Kaapstad said:
Can not remember when the last time was I bought a card with OC in the title.

I bought the MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Aero OC, if ever you need a GPU that can double as an air raid siren give it a try XD

Zeed · 4 Sep 2017 at 13:01

With prices Today 1080 is just unbeatable hands down.

Kaapstad · 4 Sep 2017 at 13:07

ubersonic said:
I bought the MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Aero OC, if ever you need a GPU that can double as an air raid siren give it a try XD

With 4 reference 290Xs I think I have got that option covered.

mountaincow · 4 Sep 2017 at 13:12

ubersonic said:
Indeed, two times 1080x1200 is actually lower than 2560x1080 (a standard 21:9 res) and these cards have no issue maxing out games at that res.

You have to remember that the render resolution is generally higher than that, unless overridden by the application. Default render scale for the Vive is 1.4 and I believe this is the same for the Rift.

Razor Time · 4 Sep 2017 at 13:27

Out of the two cards I would go for the GTX 1080.

shankly1985 · 4 Sep 2017 at 13:36

Martini1991 said:
Where's the proof? I see the CPU's are OC, but I don't see the GPU's as having OC's

Seems you correct! Well the Ref VEGA GPU is doing well considering it will defo be throttling out of the box. The 1080 will be boosting much higher out of the box.

heartburnron · 4 Sep 2017 at 13:36

Brazo said:
Not on this one.

He's using the day 1 drivers for his overclock in that video - chances are the overclock wasn't applied as Wattman wasn't applying clocks correctly - we all thought our cards were overclocking beyond 1.9 Ghz on those drivers but with the latest drivers it's hard to go beyond 1.8 yet the performance is higher. That review is on longer relevant.

J.D · 4 Sep 2017 at 14:01

Brazo said:
You haven't proved me wrong on anything matey.

Would you like me to link you to the tech power up review that shows a much wider spread of games (35) that shows the vega on average some way of a stock 1080fe? Because you know I can. The same review (one of many I might add) that said far more negative things about Vega than I can (or will).

Heavily flawed. Well yes.

Huge power draw.
Noisy
Hot
Lacking in performance and that's not including the elephant in the room (1080ti).
Poor at VR
Poor quality control at launch.
No crossfire support
Important features turned off.

I'm sorry I know your a huge AMD fan and this hurts you but the writing was on the wall a long time ago and only the delusional can ignore it.

From what I've been seeing, the cards don't seem anywhere near as bad as you're stating. I think I'll just stick to reading users testimonies and ignore people that are emotionally invested in this Vega launch.

Kaapstad said:
When overclocked on the benches the Vega64 is just ahead of the GTX 1080 but it only by a small margin.

Seems the AMD cards are better than some people are saying. I've been out the loop for a while so trying to catch up.

heartburnron · 4 Sep 2017 at 14:03

J.D said:
From what I've been seeing, the cards don't seem anywhere near as bad as you're stating. I think I'll just stick to reading users testimonies and ignore people that are emotionally invested in this Vega launch.

Good call.

JediFragger · 4 Sep 2017 at 14:06

Kaapstad said:
Can not remember when the last time was I bought a card with OC in the title.

Christ, that OC peak power draw!!!! :eek:

TheRealDeal · 4 Sep 2017 at 14:12

Kaapstad said:
Can not remember when the last time was I bought a card with OC in the title.

Apart from Civ could the games get any more biased towards nvidia

. I take nothing away from that review apart from if he included some AMD titles the cards when overclocked would average out pretty similar.

nashathedog · 4 Sep 2017 at 17:45

JediFragger said:
I personally still cannot believe the poor VR performance, wtf are AMD thinking?? And they stated that they're prioritising this!???? Only God knows what the performance would be like if they weren't!!!!!!!!

I must have missed the review on Vega VR have you got a link or name please?