Latest round of diesel scrappage/ swappage / changeoverage

Ahleckz · 6 Sep 2017 at 08:21

[TW]Fox said:
But the car you are trading in his value so it's hardly free money is it?

Well of course, but if the value of the car is £100 then it's free money. It's not really an incentive for people who have decent amount of equity in their cars. It's more for people who perhaps hadn't considered a brand new car and have a fairly old/worthless car.
It's entirely a marketing thing, rather than the previous government scrappage scheme.

sovietspybob · 6 Sep 2017 at 08:47

I assume it's more aimed at people like myself who have a 15 year old car on 130k+ which would probably only be scrapped anyway as i think i'd be lucky to get £400-500 if i could even be bothered with the hassle of selling a car at that end of the market.

Nasher · 6 Sep 2017 at 09:51

This is such a wasteful way to get cars off the road. Fine if it's a total shed, but last time they did it people were scrapping cars which were perfectly fine. It does a lot more damage making new cars than running an old one.

jpaul · 6 Sep 2017 at 10:25

- agree sub 2K cars can be fine.

maybe I misunderstand -
There is bm/merc changeover (as participant said) where old car is not necessarily scrapped and you get trade-in+bonus,
and VW where you just get bonus of 2K, and, VW say vehicle will be scrapped
... press do not seem to have jumped on the distinction though, why give bm/merc kudos ? old cars will be exported where ?

Psycho Sonny · 6 Sep 2017 at 11:23

so BMW will give me trade in value plus £2K on top as well as all other discounts and deposit contribution?

How do I do this? If not does Merc offer this? How do I do it?

Is it on brand new cars only? What about approved used?

[TW]Fox · 6 Sep 2017 at 11:32

It's not 2k on top of trade in value. Or for used cars.

Psycho Sonny · 6 Sep 2017 at 11:33

[TW]Fox said:
It's not 2k on top of trade in value. Or for used cars.

so completely useless then unless you own a shed?

not exactly the type of people in the market for a brand new car. completely pointless promotion then?

Hater · 6 Sep 2017 at 11:53

What's the fine print? Can I go buy 400 £100 clungers and end up in a 550i for ~£5000 of diesel clung or is it one per vehicle?

Psycho Sonny · 6 Sep 2017 at 12:00

Hater said:
What's the fine print? Can I go buy 400 £100 clungers and end up in a 550i for ~£5000 of diesel clung or is it one per vehicle?

when have you ever known someone to give multiples of the same discount on 1 item?

sovietspybob · 6 Sep 2017 at 12:02

Hater said:
What's the fine print? Can I go buy 400 £100 clungers and end up in a 550i for ~£5000 of diesel clung or is it one per vehicle?

All the schemes i've looked at you have to have been the registered keeper for at least 90 days, some 12 months and only 1 car per deal.

The new car also has to go in the name of whoever the scrapped car was. For example if i were to trade in my Yaris to buy the wife a new car it would be in my name and not hers.

Nasher · 6 Sep 2017 at 12:03

Only on new cars probably. The deal isn't as good as it initially sounds.

Sadly you can't just go and buy a knackered old diesel then go and get 2k off a nice collectable classic

Bickaxe · 6 Sep 2017 at 12:40

Hater said:
What's the fine print? Can I go buy 400 £100 clungers and end up in a 550i for ~£5000 of diesel clung or is it one per vehicle?

1 per vehicle which you must then own for 90 days. The offer expires in 80 though (depends on manufacturer). Also trade in immediately and your new car will be ready in 4 months (probably).
I could have done this but wasn't eligible on my car (ordered a Focus ST).

Hater · 6 Sep 2017 at 12:40

Well that's crap. Think of all of the tree huggers saved from 400 less cars on the road.

Ahleckz · 6 Sep 2017 at 14:56

Bickaxe said:
1 per vehicle which you must then own for 90 days. The offer expires in 80 though (depends on manufacturer). Also trade in immediately and your new car will be ready in 4 months (probably).
I could have done this but wasn't eligible on my car (ordered a Focus ST).

Which dealer is going to force you to give up your current car when yours isnt even ready? That's madness.

sovietspybob · 6 Sep 2017 at 15:21

I found it to be quite limited as most deals seem to have to be delivered and complete before the end of the year, and ford for example have a 7 month lead time on anything with the 1.5 ecoboost engine... The more you look into it the worse the deal gets at each turn!

Flibster · 7 Sep 2017 at 01:12

jpaul said:
so will these scrappage discounts impact used prices at all ? (there always seems an absence of used car price trends on the web, unless you try and track it yourself),

I've been looking for a sensibleish car to help with the DIY as an RX8 ain't the most practical thing for that.
Prices have certainly gone up. Not hugely, but it seems that if the car was hovering around the amount they might get from the dealer, they've stuck £500-1000 on top and trying their luck.

Uncle_Gravy · 7 Sep 2017 at 09:43

This kind of thing could be worth while if you still have your old first car, IE mk2 1.2 clio.

Participant · 9 Sep 2017 at 05:51

[TW]Fox said:
It's not 2k on top of trade in value.

It is though, or can be anyway. I'm getting £2.4k diesel changeover plus £2.3k trade in plus £2k deposit contribution with Mercedes. This with a ten year old Volvo S80.

The only argument I can see against it is that the true value of the car is never realised when it's traded in. Worth it for the low hassle changeover when the new car is ready though.

Richie · 9 Sep 2017 at 07:14

^^^ Makes no sense... The car HAS to be scrapped to qualify for the scheme and there is no way that the dealer will receive the £2,300 he is giving you for the car back as scrap value...

blun · 9 Sep 2017 at 08:16

Richie said:
^^^ Makes no sense... The car HAS to be scrapped to qualify for the scheme

There is no "scheme" here like there was either the government backed scheme a few years ago. This is just dealers profiting of the current diesel hate by calling existing discounts "scrappage". They can do what they want with your old car.