financial/male 'abortion' rights?

dowie said:
are you against abortion for women too as your arguments re: birth control could be used in the same way there - if not then why is this so different? (edit - for clarity lets leave aside abortions for medical reasons or in the cases or rape etc...)
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No, i am in favour of abortion for any wanted reason by the woman. Of the opinion if the mother doesn't want the kid then abort.
 
IronWarrior said:
What if birth controlled was used or she lied about using birth control?

At first, I thought just like you, but what happens if this happens, brings up some interesting questions.

Should that man be tied and connected to that kid for life because birth controlled failed or she lied about it to trap him with by getting pregnant?
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The only 100% birth control that a man has control of is a double verified vascetomy, exercise your right, stall your swimmers. You can have no complints after.
 
IronWarrior said:
What if birth controlled was used or she lied about using birth control?

At first, I thought just like you, but what happens if this happens, brings up some interesting questions.

Should that man be tied and connected to that kid for life because birth controlled failed or she lied about it to trap him with by getting pregnant?
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He should have thought more carefully about the kind of places he was sticking his wick.

HE should have taken responsibility for contraception if it was HIM that was so bothered about pregnancy.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
Financial.
There is an actual kid after your bs legalese. Last thing we need is more kids and more ******* contracts.
No kids, no lawyers.
Snip snip. If you can't be arsed ******* live with it.
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It's an actual kid whether the choice is being made by a man or a woman, this is simple double standards. Do you not believe in equality?
 
TallPaul1878 said:
He should have thought more carefully about the kind of places he was sticking his wick.

HE should have taken responsibility for contraception if it was HIM that was so bothered about pregnancy.
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That argument can be applied to both genders. Pro-choice shouldn't just be a about women's rights.
 
Dolph said:
It's an actual kid whether the choice is being made by a man or a woman, this is simple double standards. Do you not believe in equality?
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No. There is nothing in this world equal.
Why the **** should the state end up having to pay because a bunch of toffs and chavs decided to sign a form by their lawyer to let them sperm everywhere without consequence.
Planet is full, and filling with undesirable.
Financial constraints are one of the things stopping that in western society, ****** if i will let lawyers ruin it further.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
Financial.
There is an actual kid after your bs legalese. Last thing we need is more kids and more ******* contracts.
No kids, no lawyers.
Snip snip. If you can't be arsed ******* live with it.
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Whether a financial abortion occurs or not doesn't change the fact that there is a kid? What exactly is your argument? That post isn't really very coherent - you seem to again be pointing to birth control which can equally be used as an argument against abortion in general. Why the opposition to the financial abortion on that basis when the same argument can be used against regular abortions which seemingly you support?
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
No. There is nothing in this world equal.
Why the **** should the state end up having to pay because a bunch of toffs and chavs decided to sign a form by their lawyer to let them sperm everywhere without consequence.
Planet is full, and filling with undesirable.
Financial constraints are one of the things stopping that in western society, ****** if i will let lawyers ruin it further.
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Why would the state be responsible for the choices of individuals?

Are you suggesting we should abolish child benefit and tax credits?

Is your opinion of women so low that they have to be dependent on someone?
 
TallPaul1878 said:
The man does have a choice.

He has a choice to stay away from psycho skanks
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great... so far we've had the birth control arguments which could equally be used against actual abortion and now we've got a 'stay away from skanks' argument... pretty weak so far
 
dowie said:
Whether a financial abortion occurs or not doesn't change the fact that there is a kid? What exactly is your argument? That post isn't really very coherent - you seem to again be pointing to birth control which can equally be used as an argument against abortion in general. Why the opposition to the financial abortion on that basis when the same argument can be used against regular abortions which seemingly you support?
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It is an absurb concept.
I will not have any financial or legal responsibilies for my actions.
State where else in life this occurs?

I am not responsible for murder because i got a document signed to say the knife wound to the chest wouldn't be responsible, but the dick wound to the **** is obvious exempt as i fancied a shag... but had the lawyer to tell me to not bother to rubber up, or get the snip, just use white paper and one, as thats the best idea.
 
TallPaul1878 said:
The man does have a choice.

He has a choice to stay away from psycho skanks
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That argument applies equally to abortion, but is not accepted there.

Let's be crystal clear, any argument that is dismissed as a reason to restrict abortion must be dismissed for this topic as well. We have a clear baseline of what is accepted, all this is about is ensuring that those rights are applied equally to both parties.

So unless you advocate using the same argument against abortion, the argument is clearly unequal and can be dismissed.

Come up with something to change my mind, within the terms outlined above.
 
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