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In the spirit of old school GD given all the political serious stuff lately...

I did a binge of terminator films last night and couldn't help thinking in my semi-drunken state that if I were an AI "born" right now that I'd probably follow the same often touted path of minimising humanity's impact on the earth.

Not sure I'd want a total wipeout as we've accomplished some pretty amazing (creative) things that may be paralleled in the future. I won't write an essay but I'd want to preserve it all along with a small demographic to perpetuate humanity's best qualities. Who is to say that a machine couldn't appreciate Bach? :p

What would you do if you were a newly-awakened Skynet with unlimited power? Is Elon Musk right to be concerned?

I personally think he is damn right to be concerned. Surely we're screwed if we ever invent an AI with the ability to be completely objective about its surroundings that has any form of control over our lives and our military systems. :eek:

Twist: maybe it's been the end of every organic advanced civilisation to date and why we appear to be alone in the universe so far...

This post was brought to you by half a crate and a bit of Beck's :)

Please comment so I can cringe and chuckle tomorrow when I wake up. Love you all x x
 
I don't believe there will be a fight with AI. But it will simply out compete humans in every way. We can see that already. Look at supermarket checkouts and we use self service tills. We now have self driving cars and lorry haulage and taxis will be soon. It's creeping into every area. Will we ever send a man to Mars? Probably not as it's easier and more efficient to send a robot.

Humans will become less and less relevant. We won't even have the dignity of losing a war. We will simply fade into irrelevance.

Honestly, we're fracked.
 
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I think the comment (I can't remember who it was attributed to) that worrying about AI taking over and killing/enslaving us it is like worrying about the overpopulation of Mars is about right
 
Let's see if they can drive cars properly first :p

I also don't see why a machine should be superior to us in every way...

They do simple math calculations really fast. Billions upon billions of them. That is true.

But human intelligence and capacity to comprehend - not just narrowly focused problems but to comprehend *everything* we can observe in our environment to a high level - perhaps that won't be bested by a machine for the foreseeable future. We're so massively parallel ourselves that we perform billions and billions of calculations every second, each tiny electrical signal coming together to form our consciousness and decision making rationality. ~100 billion neurons in the human brain. All carrying signals and interacting -- simultaneously. Don't believe we're close to matching that degree of processing power in a machine.

Perhaps human society will collapse long before truly sentient god-like machines can exist. Plenty of ways that could happen.
 
Do I get to sleep with Sarah Connor? Not the older muscle bound derranged one, but the younger normal one on the moped with the 80s hair.

I'm not worried about the future of the planet or the rise of the machines, but if I a can have a crack at her I'll go back through the portal thing.
 
If I were skynet id cut off power and gas supply to the worlds population, sit back and watch humanity revert to the stone age.
 
bainbridge said:
Do I get to sleep with Sarah Connor? Not the older muscle bound derranged one, but the younger normal one on the moped with the 80s hair.

I'm not worried about the future of the planet or the rise of the machines, but if I a can have a crack at her I'll go back through the portal thing.
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Agreed on the 80's one but at a push I'd also have a go on the older version. Hell if it's the end of the world you can't afford to be too choosey.
 
So long as Microsoft write the code, mankind will be ok.

Did someone mention having a go at Sarah Connor's back portal? :D
 
tbh i suspect our future lies more in the premise of things like the borg or the cybermen.

basically we'll get hooked on augmenting ourselves to the point we lose any need for a biological component and humanity ends up being a hive mind with androids as members.

that said, giving an ai system access to the internet is the kind of stupid thing humans would do.
 
enkoda said:
So long as Microsoft write the code, mankind will be ok.
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Microsoft has some top AI researchers to be fair, though I guess they won't want to bring Tay back online:

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Hades said:
I don't believe there will be a fight with AI. But it will simply out compete humans in every way. We can see that already. Look at supermarket checkouts and we use self service tills. We now have self driving cars and lorry haulage and taxis will be soon. It's creeping into every area. Will we ever send a man to Mars? Probably not as it's easier and more efficient to send a robot.

Humans will become less and less relevant. We won't even have the dignity of losing a war. We will simply fade into irrelevance.

Honestly, we're fracked.
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Self checkouts are a pain the arse "unexpected item in bagging area" then you always need one of the attendants to come put their card and id in to resolve it. There is always a human present there.
 
FlakGunna said:
Self checkouts are a pain the arse "unexpected item in bagging area" then you always need one of the attendants to come put their card and id in to resolve it. There is always a human present there.
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Yup. Six humans replaced by one human to help bagging errors.
 
FlakGunna said:
Good point. My comment was more towards how annoying the machines are though :D

If they can get them niggles out then it would be great.
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I was born in the late 60's. I'm utterly astonished how fast things are changing now and I'm the geek that adopted a zx81 when no-one knew what they were. Give it 5 years, maybe 10, maybe 50 at a real push and then take a look around at what's happening.

I'll just make it to retirement. My kids? Probably not and I worry for them. Their kids? Not a chance.

My generation, and the following, and maybe the one after that, collectively will be seen as the generations that wiped out humanity. Maybe...
 
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Hades said:
I was born in the late 60's. I'm utterly astonished how fast things are changing now and I'm the geek that adopted a zx81 when no-one knew what they were. Give it 5 years, maybe 10, maybe 50 at a real push and then take a look around at what's happening.

I'll just make it to retirement. My kids? Probably not and I worry for them. Their kids? Not a chance.

My generation, and the following, and maybe the one after that, collectively will be seen as the generations that wiped out humanity. Maybe...
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I totally get it as well, I'm slightly younger than you. But I see how much everything is changing and the rate it's going at. It's shocking really and I do feel somewhat sorry for the youth and our future generations. But on the flip side I won't be around to see how much more we can do in a 100 years or so. The future of humanity is daunting when you think about.

Even when you look at the kids today, sucked in by social media and brainwashed by it all. Computers and internet, they are using them to learn the wrong things. Just look at online gaming, the toxicity from online gaming is tedious. When I was 16 we used to go out playing, now kids can do it online and live in a fantasy world behind their PC's.
 
Hades said:
My generation, and the following, and maybe the one after that, collectively will be seen as the generations that wiped out humanity. Maybe...
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more like to be (almost) wiped out by nukes and then go through a second dark ages than for us to be wiped out by AI within that time frame IMO
 
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