Nooo most are really badMaybe it's me
Joys of car buying...
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Recently bought a newish (2016) bike from an independent dealer, very un-salesy. He told me the price, I told him I wanted a new tyre, he agreed, I asked for delivery and a service to be included, he agreed, I asked him if he was going to try to "sell" it to me, he said "No, if it's right for you and you want it, you'll buy it but it needs to be your choice, I don't believe in selling people things they don't want or need"
I bought it.
I bought it.
They're in the process of ditching the 1.4TSI in favour of the 1.5TSI EVO, be better off with that I would have thought.
Your general point is sound though, these engines are surprisingly pokey and economical alongside their 2.0TDI equivalents.
No real difference twixt the 1.4 and 1.5 - I've heard the 1.5 is to appease the Chinese market in some way.
Either way, it's a great little engine with decent poke and surprising economy. No, it won't challenge a diesel if you're pounding motorways 90% of the time but, for a decent mix of urban & rural driving, it'll come close and then you have to factor in the cheaper cost of the car and servicing.
It's because you get a lot of people that don't really know what they want except that it should be a car that's comfortable and costs x to buy/run, which opens them right up to being sold something overpriced.
Research beforehand on the price you should be paying, test drive a few (it's not hard to say "I need to test driver other cars before I decide" if they try push a sale after test drive).
OP's wife/GF is a prime case really, sounds like she didn't really have much idea of what she needed or liked.
Maybe it's just me, but if I'm buying a car or a bike, I'll have a few very specific models in mind and I'll buy one of them. You won't sell a bike or car to me, I'll buy it.
But then I guess it's because I like and take an interest in both. I suppose if it's purely a tool for work/school run/chores and you're not in to cars at all then you just want someone to tell you what's good within your price range.
Research beforehand on the price you should be paying, test drive a few (it's not hard to say "I need to test driver other cars before I decide" if they try push a sale after test drive).
OP's wife/GF is a prime case really, sounds like she didn't really have much idea of what she needed or liked.
Maybe it's just me, but if I'm buying a car or a bike, I'll have a few very specific models in mind and I'll buy one of them. You won't sell a bike or car to me, I'll buy it.
But then I guess it's because I like and take an interest in both. I suppose if it's purely a tool for work/school run/chores and you're not in to cars at all then you just want someone to tell you what's good within your price range.
Audi can stretch 185bhp from a 1.4 petrol in their A1
Andi.
Eh? There's no 185bhp 1.4 in the A1 is there?
http://www.evo.co.uk/audi/a1/7076/audi-a1-14-tfsi-185-s-line-review
Yep, a bit too much for FWD I think, we opted for the 122bhp version as a country runabout.
I test drove one and wore out the tyres leaving the dealership!!
Andi.
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thing is thats not really true any more, these modern petrols are just as complex as their diesel counterparts
I don't see the difference, well certainly in servicing. What mythical extra costs are involved in servicing a diesel over a petrol? I mean, petrol motors need their spark plugs changed every other service or so. What is extra on the diesel? Over and above the regular oil and filters?
As for purchase price...
DIESEL MANUAL Ford Focus 1.5 TDCi 120PS Zetec Ed 5dr Hatchback Manual£20,815 £14,863
PETROL MANUALFord Focus 1.0 EcoBoost 125PS Zetec Ed 5dr Hatchback Manual £20,135 £14,394
I'll look at near bottom of the range Ford Focus here, as that's a fairly average example to be comparing. £500 difference. Hardly breaking the bank on a new car, and the diesel will likely be worth £500 more at least than the petrol when your finished.
Or, you could look at the top of the range 3 series saloons?
PETROL AUTO BMW 3-Series 340i M Sport Shadow Ed 3.0 331PS 4dr Saloon Auto 159g/km £43,550 £35,344
DIESEL AUTO BMW 3-Series 335d M Sport Shadow Ed xDrive 3.0 317PS 4dr Saloon Auto 145g/km £44,020 £34,665
Now, granted, the 340i doesn't have the X-Drive, but it's diesel equivalent is, none the less, the 335d. A car that cannot be had without the x-drive. Again, £500 difference, but this time the petrol one is more expensive, despite not having the x-drive.
So tell me again how diesels are more expensive to buy and service please?
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Bought a used VW recently and they weren't pushy and quite helpful but the car wasn't ready on time.
I had a laugh with one dealer regarding finance. He was trying hard to convince me to take their finance rather than the bank loan I had in principle. When I pointed out the difference in interest over the term (almost £2k) he said he'd look after me should there be a problem with the loan. What problems do you foresee I asked. Some waffle about customer service and more 'we'll take care you'. I said quite frankly once I've bought the car I'll never see you again, as they weren't the dealer of that marque.
I was a little annoyed that they tried this tactic but I reckon it works on a lot of people hence why they try it on in the first place.
I was a little annoyed that they tried this tactic but I reckon it works on a lot of people hence why they try it on in the first place.
Too much?
DPF may block = £400 to clean or £1000+ to replace.
many citys banning them... = more costs to use train or other public transport.
Neither of which are servicing issues, which is what was being discussed. The argument was made that:
Which on both fronts I asked for some evidence to back this up. None of which have appeared, and one of which has been debunked.
But obviously these factors should be considered when determining if the car choice is correct for it's intended use.
No but they still do a 150bhp version and you could always go used.
Andi.
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Maybe, maybe not.
Which cities have banned EU6 diesels? Infact which cities have banned any diesels?