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Persimmon lol
House I've had my eye on has dropped £45k asking price
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And?
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I've worked on them. It's like a chef who won't eat at his restaurant.
Well that must be because of your shoddy work standards.
My old grandparents lived in a Persimmon for over 10 years - no problems. And my cousin bought a 4 bed detached new build Persimmon last year on a different development to those ones I listed - again no problems.
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Ooooh touchy meeeeooooww
You'll have to define "rubbish area" a bit more precisely.
Regarding your original criteria, a few examples for £250k:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-50480733.html
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-50672598.html
£255k:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-47710080.html
5-bed, £279k:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-44428533.html
5-bed, £290k:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-61723364.html
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A 4 bed detached with double garage sub 300k would be a good find in a nice area.
More than likely it was over priced by the estate agent to get the business (this is common to most if not all estate agents)
The divorced couple now hate each other and the house is the only reason left that requires them to communicate.
We are sadly years away before we can move but still couldn't help having a look at this one. I have a feeling for some people on here not having a Starbucks at the bottom of the garden would rule it out
Saying that it needed gutting but a couple of acres and next to no neighbors is my idea of heaven.
More than likely it was over priced by the estate agent to get the business (this is common to most if not all estate agents)
The divorced couple now hate each other and the house is the only reason left that requires them to communicate.
We are sadly years away before we can move but still couldn't help having a look at this one. I have a feeling for some people on here not having a Starbucks at the bottom of the garden would rule it out
Saying that it needed gutting but a couple of acres and next to no neighbors is my idea of heaven.
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has it been empty since they split? if so then it could have lots of issues that have been masked with a quick touch up here and there.
No idea, it's STC now anyway.
Chris - interested to see where this is. From what you've said I presume you are on about somewhere like Longlevens/Hempstead/Highnam/Churchdown ?
We got a 4 bed detached, detached double garage and gated driveway in Gloucester for 257k last year as they simply were desperate to sell - the agents advert was horrific, with awful pictures and a totally incorrect floorplan.
Scary to think the same thing would probably be £500k in Cheltenham.
We got a 4 bed detached, detached double garage and gated driveway in Gloucester for 257k last year as they simply were desperate to sell - the agents advert was horrific, with awful pictures and a totally incorrect floorplan.
Scary to think the same thing would probably be £500k in Cheltenham.
You could say that
Chalk and cheese. There are decent parts of Gloucester and, shall we say, less desirable areas of Cheltenham, but the ratios differ. The central and inner areas are vastly different.
Gloucester is a bit like a slice of the north/midlands in the south (I'm allowed to say that, I've lived in both)!
I think 30 years ago, there was a "massive" difference, now I'm not so sure. I'll try and give a balanced view.
If you compare what I'd class as the absolute best areas of Cheltenham (Montpellier, Landsdown, Charlton Kings, Leckhampton) to the absolute worst areas of Gloucester, then yes, its vastly different. However, I'm pretty sure Montpellier is in the top 10 most expensive and desirable places to live in the UK. (I'd loop places like Tivoli, The Park, The Suffolks, etc into Montpellier). Have a read of this to see how its, fairly, compared to Bath and Oxford https://www.ft.com/content/a7435730-0c99-11e6-b41f-0beb7e589515
The other thing which always drags a comparison is schooling. Cheltenham has arguably some of the best private schools in the country (Cheltenham Boys College, Cheltenham Girls College, Dean Close, St Edwards), and these are compared the the very worst secondary schools in Gloucester, most of which have now gone and turned into new acadamy sites.
Gloucester has a handful of private Schools (Notably Kings, which featured in the Harry Potter films along with the Cathedral) but I'd say that state schools are far more comparable (Gloucester has I believe 4 Grammar schools (Crypt, Sir Tommy Rich's, Ribston High, School for Girls) and Cheltenham has one (Pates, which to be fair has a huge catchment pull). You then have Marling and Stroud High School for Girls, both just on the edge of south Gloucester. State school wise Chosen Hill and Balcaras always used to be the best. Chosen Hill in Churchdown (a 'village' between Cheltenham and Gloucester) which at one point was in the top 5 comprehensive schools for results in the county).
Cheltenham however is like any part of the world, there are good and bad areas. The bad areas are just like the bad area in any area. Gloucester has had significant investment now, and locations like the Quays are now very nice. The City centre is finally being invested in and previously it was, well, not great.
In my opinion has vastly closed the gap. I too have lived in Cheltenham & Gloucester since the late 1980's.
I think ultimately, Gloucester is 'just a normal place to live' and Cheltenham always has its absolute best areas used as a comparison to it. IMO the price gap isn't at all justified. Thats why established suburbs in Gloucester like Longlevens and Abbeymead have seen huge price increases over the last 10-15 years.
It's in Abbeymead, the area that I'd preferably want to move to. I currently live in Coopers Edge. I'm not desperate to move, I really like my house, but the garage doesn't have power and is opposite the house and underneath a coachouse. It's also a new build area, so lacks a little 'soul' and is overlooked, the shop and (decent) pub are a 25 minute walk away etc.
I had my house valued last year and the estate agent said I'd be looking at another £100k get a house that is an improvement and I don't think he's far off the mark after monitoring the market since his visit (April).
Where the hell did you find a gated house for £257k? That's incredible. Gated and with a double garage would be my dream, but it means I would have to enjoy life a lot less which I'm not prepared to do at current prices.
You could say that
Chalk and cheese. There are decent parts of Gloucester and, shall we say, less desirable areas of Cheltenham, but the ratios differ. The central and inner areas are vastly different.
Gloucester is a bit like a slice of the north/midlands in the south (I'm allowed to say that, I've lived in both)!
Pretty much this. Cheltenham is nicer, there's a larger variety of bars and restaurants in the centre and it's more picturesque. Shops wise it's half and half really. Saying that, Gloucester is far from bad and the Quays have been heavily redeveloped and more money is piling into it now. Although Cheltenham is nicer, the difference between it and Gloucester is not enough to warrant the absurd amount money you have to pay to live there compared to Gloucester for similar properties.
Gloucester generally has rough areas and nice areas. In Cheltenham you can walk down a road with gated houses on with £600k+ plus price tags on, then the next house is a bunch of council houses and notorious for crime. It's quite bizarre.
I looked at moving to Cheltenham and for what I have I'd need £350k minimum, for that I can get a gated house in a nice part of Gloucester if I look around. Plus then I'd spend most of my time on a bus or in a taxi as most of my mates live in Gloucester. So I decided against it.
Schools wise I have no idea, I don't have kids but I guess it's something I should start looking into. I think Coopers Edge has dramatically risen in price tag due to the community centre and school here, plus a good bus link to the city centre.
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Different location, but pretty much the identical here except the garage /coachhouse is along the terrace.
I've found this in quite a few places though, it feels odd but when you look into it there are quite a few towns like this, typically because council housing etc was put in place years ago but may be near areas that have become desirable due to proximity to centre, transport links etc. Quite a few hubs like that in London now where gentrification has/is happening in ghetto areas so you've got estates with people getting knifed all the time next door to fancy new builds. In the City you see these little grotty pockets dotted around the place. I used to live in Southampton and that was a bit of a mishmash in places too.
Regarding Cheltenham specifically I used to travel there quite a lot for work and while there were some nice Georgian squares, wide tree lined roads etc etc the high street seemed a bit of a dive with quite a bit of yoof hanging around in the evenings. CHeltenham AVerages I guess you could say. It felt like one of those places that is a bit overpriced perhaps given how far it is from London.