Found a potential replacement for our aging car but need some advice

rodenal · 2 Oct 2017 at 18:40

stuey2407 said:
Just checked and Carwow gained offers around 24.5k for the same spec (which includes the deposit contribution via the PCP)

We will be towing with the vehicle hence looking at the diesel for the extra torque.

Pricing sounds sensible then, if it's the kind of car you're after and you're ok with the interior stuff then just see how much you can get off and go for it.

It's not the car I would buy or the colour, but you obviously feel it's suitable for what you want. Assume you'll get two years manufacturer warranty which can likely be extended anyway so there isn't much to worry about in way of immediate unforseen maintenance

Nasher · 2 Oct 2017 at 18:45

[TW]Fox said:
All you've demonstrated there is that you don't understand how to interpret data.

It's showing what percentage of total claims are for the engine. So, if you have 1 claim and its for the engine, that would be 100%. If there are 100 claims and 50 are for the engine, thats 'only' 50%...

This is why the marque at the very bottom of the table with the highest percentage is actually one of the most reliable, not least reliable..

It means the engine is the least reliable part.

The "reliability index" indicates where each models stands over all. Audis are way up in 3 figures AND high % of engine faults.

[TW]Fox · 2 Oct 2017 at 18:55

Nasher said:
It means the engine is the least reliable part.

The "reliability index" indicates where each models stands over all. Audis are way up in 3 figures AND high % of engine faults.

None of that means what you originally claimed, though.

Plus if you have a very very reliable car where the only thing that ever goes wrong, once a blue moon, is the engine, it'd have a high percentage whereas if you have something where everything breaks all the time the engine percentage will be much lower...

Dav4 · 2 Oct 2017 at 19:06

I can't be bothered searching for it but I did see some kind of official table on a car site a while back for manufacturers reliability based on cars being returned within warranty for any faults and Audi was around 20th out of 25 which is very bad for a premium badge. Think they were even behind Vauxhall which is saying something. Pretty sure the most reliable were Toyota, Honda, Kia, Hyundai

stuey2407 · 2 Oct 2017 at 20:12

The other two we looked at before the A3 were the Hyundai Tuscan and the Qashqai. Somewhere local sells ex mobility vehicle and always has a good selected of reasonably specced Qashqais

Amp34 · 2 Oct 2017 at 22:56

Dav4 said:
I can't be bothered searching for it but I did see some kind of official table on a car site a while back for manufacturers reliability based on cars being returned within warranty for any faults and Audi was around 20th out of 25 which is very bad for a premium badge. Think they were even behind Vauxhall which is saying something. Pretty sure the most reliable were Toyota, Honda, Kia, Hyundai

http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer/relIndex

Probably the most relatable there?

That seems to show reliability and cost to repair - probably a reason most of the premium Marques are at the bottom. They may (or may not be) more reliable than the others, but when they do go wrong they cost more to repair.

It does put the likes of Seat, VW, and Vauxhall in a new light though - normal cars with premium repairs (either due to cost or reliability).

That said 50,000 cars doesn’t seem a huge selection, which may explain why Dihatsu is the best.

Nasher · 3 Oct 2017 at 09:46

Some don't have a large enough sample yet. But the ranking is close to what you would expect though.

Jamesyboyjim · 3 Oct 2017 at 10:36

Seems strange that those lists have Skoda, SEAT, VW and Audi in such different reliability positions seeing as they all share engines!

Amp34 said:
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer/relIndex

It does put the likes of Seat, VW, and Vauxhall in a new light though - normal cars with premium repairs (either due to cost or reliability).

Thought that when I bought an Ibiza, downsized car and bought it because it was small, uncomplicated and economical but quite surprised at what SEAT and other VAG garages charge for diagnostics, servicing and repairs.
My missus just got her newer much higher specced Focus serviced at Ford for £150. Her car is superior and far more 'car' in every way shape and form

Nasher · 3 Oct 2017 at 11:14

Yea Ford service is pretty cheap usually unless it's an ST or RS then they pump up the price, just because.

VAG cars can be extortionate. It's not the parts that are expensive, it's the labour. For some reason they love to design their cars to make everything hard to access. You have to hoist out the engine for some things that are relatively simple jobs on other cars. Whatever you do, never buy a V8 S4

stuey2407 · 9 Oct 2017 at 20:32

Still looking and haven't committed to the Audi yet although we both like it we are not sure we want to drop that much cash on a family car. We went and had a look at a newer (2014) Toyota Verso. Could not believe how bad the interior is in the newer models. Felt like someone grabbed a handful of hard plastic and threw it in. I was a little embarrassed when the dealer asked what we thought of it.

The wife also tried a Hyundai Tuscan on Friday and liked that but said she thought it was bigger than we really needed and she really wants something small.