Mass Shooting in Las Vegas

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Psycho Ned said:
Having been to Vegas a fair few times no one takes the blindest bit of notice what you take into your room.

You could have a suitcase full of guns, no one would know. He'd been there a few days apparently. Could have bought a suitcase full of guns in every day for all the hotel would have known.
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Many of the hotels in Vegas have a strict no guns in the rooms policy - as per my video above even if you brought them up in gun cases - one case at a time no one blinked an eye lid.
 
Rroff said:
Many of the hotels in Vegas have a strict no guns in the rooms policy - as per my video above even if you brought them up in gun cases - one case at a time no one blinked an eye lid.
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People have managed to get dead bodies out of hotel rooms without being noticed, I don't think it's going to be that difficult to smuggle in some guns!
Obviously you wouldn't use 'gun cases'
 
Robbo said:
58 dead, 515 injured (and more to come presumably).

Quite the figure.
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Willing to bet that many of those won't be gunshot injuries. The numbers are insane though. Given the relative isolation of Vegas I wonder how the hospitals are coping.
 
Rroff said:
Many of the hotels in Vegas have a strict no guns in the rooms policy - as per my video above even if you brought them up in gun cases - one case at a time no one blinked an eye lid.
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C.R.A.Z.Y said:
People have managed to get dead bodies out of hotel rooms without being noticed, I don't think it's going to be that difficult to smuggle in some guns!
Obviously you wouldn't use 'gun cases'
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MSNBC have had some 'experts' on and apparently there's a gun show in Vegas soon so seeing people checking in with gun cases isn't uncommon.
 
The suspects brother has been on CNN a few times, live, and stated that as far as he knows, his brother (suspect) had no links to any terrorism, nothing at all, no criminal record, no mental health issues, you can see on his face that he is totally dumbstruck at what has happened, also when he was speaking live the FBI turned up and they went inside for a chat.

RIP to all.
 
Roar87 said:
Look, America isn't the UK, it has vast borders, it is geographically 40 times larger than the UK and has more guns than people. A large portion of those people would be willing to fight for in order to keep their guns. Any attack on their ability to own a gun is perceived as an effort to de-arm the population in order to enslave them. They literally think that. There's nothing you can tighten up that will stop anyone in America getting a gun who wants one.
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So your saying lets brush it under the carpet and get on with the 2nd amendment as it is, rather than looking to do something now for the take of the future where gun crime can be decreased, and over the longer term hopefully get a decent control of it. Or they can go on happily as if nothing happened, then people complain everytime there is a shooting in a School, Cinema, Concert Hall, club, or now from a hotel room in to a crowd. - This is without terrorism which is still another threat in itself.

What need is there to have fully automatic weapons roaming around like this?

I know you can "stop" gun crime, but atleast get a grip on it and do something about it rather than "well I better not because I may annoy a lot of americans if I take it off them/make it harder"
 
timmeh said:
MSNBC have had some 'experts' on and apparently there's a gun show in Vegas soon so seeing people checking in with gun cases isn't uncommon.
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Shot show or something like that happens there every year - the last one was just over 8 months ago.
 
timmeh said:
MSNBC have had some 'experts' on and apparently there's a gun show in Vegas soon so seeing people checking in with gun cases isn't uncommon.
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My research suggests the Mandalay Hotel is owned by MGM who have a strict 'No Guns' policy on all their property's !?!?
Could be mistaken, need to find more sources....

MGM’s No Firearm Policy is clear: They do not allow firearms. “If the firearm is in the possession of a guest, the firearm must be surrendered to Security and placed in safe keeping until the guest departs property. If the guest declines to surrender the firearm, the guest must exit property immediately. Local Law Enforcement will be notified immediately when a person is in possession of a firearm and declines to surrender the weapon to Security.”
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Source
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
My research suggests the Mandalay Hotel is owned by MGM who have a strict 'No Guns' policy on all their property's !?!?
Could be mistaken, need to find more sources....
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Yeah most of the hotels have an on-site armoury that guests are "supposed" to check their weapons into.
 
DJMK4 said:
So your saying lets brush it under the carpet and get on with the 2nd amendment as it is, rather than looking to do something now for the take of the future where gun crime can be decreased, and over the longer term hopefully get a decent control of it. Or they can go on happily as if nothing happened, then people complain everytime there is a shooting in a School, Cinema, Concert Hall, club, or now from a hotel room in to a crowd. - This is without terrorism which is still another threat in itself.

What need is there to have fully automatic weapons roaming around like this?
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People are going to commit crimes and kill other people. As far as I know in the UK bombs are illegal but we still had the Manchester bombings at the arena and the London bombings in 2007. Guns are illegal in Paris but there was still the Paris shootings. Guns are banned in Germany so people rent trucks and drive them into crowds. People are the problem.
 
Roar87 said:
People are going to commit crimes and kill other people. As far as I know in the UK bombs are illegal but we still had the Manchester bombings at the arena and the London bombings in 2007. Guns are illegal in Paris but there was still the Paris shootings. Guns are banned in Germany so people rent trucks and drive them into crowds. People are the problem.
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I'm sorry but that is a ludicrous argument. America has a disproportionate gun crime problem. Manchester does not have a comparable bombing problem, nor does Germany have a truck problem. Those are tragic and thankfully rare occurrences. Guns have cost literally hundreds of thousands American lives.
 
One More Solo said:
I'm sorry but that is a ludicrous argument. America has a disproportionate gun crime problem. Manchester does not have a comparable bombing problem, nor does Germany have a truck problem. Those are tragic and thankfully rare occurrences. Guns have cost literally hundreds of thousands American lives.
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Smoking and drinking kill over half a million a year in the US, I suppose there's not a big news story about that though
 
I have a friend who owns a gun shop over here, he went to Las Vegas a few years ago in order to get some training on certain weapons, or at least that was how it was told to me.

What shocked me was not so much what he was able to fire legally, which was scary in itself, but what else he managed to get his hands on as a pretty unconnected UK citizen in America.
 
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