Mass Shooting in Las Vegas
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It's hard to say because levels of firearm ownership in the US are so high that there isn't a real comparator. Is it possible to have as many guns as people and not expose your country to more gun violence than the average developed nation? Who knows. Countries like Sweden and Germany show it is largely possible albeit it at a much lower level of ownership.
Regardless, my point was far too many people get killed by guns in the States compared to the rest of the developed world. On one hand, you can argue (as you did) that it does ok considering how many guns there are. On the other, you could say how many of those deaths would be avoided in the first place with fewer guns? I'm not sure the first position is really defensible.
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Not a LMG, if it was, the stream of fire would be much longer and almost none stop, far more deaths and injuries too.
Likely an AR/AK/M16 type, fully automatic with a standard magazines of 25-30 rounds.
Few more days, am sure the LVPD will show a photo of all the weapons, ammo and equipment he has like they normally do.
standard magazine wouldn't allow for some of the burst of fire that can be heard in the clips
also perfectly possible (and far more effective) for him to have used even smaller bursts with a machine gun
Depends - many light machineguns will support a box or drum magazine which are typically mostly available in 100 round variety in the US and likewise actual belt feeds tend to be 100 round strips - only if its using disintegrating links would it be more likely to be more sustained - even then longer than 100 rounds tends to be a bit difficult to manage without an extra support person.
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Save yourself a job correcting yourself later then and don't share nonsense from InfoWars.
Have you actually watched the videos ??
The magazines simply can't be 25-30 rounds, the burst/shot rate was much higher than that!
One thing that is weird, reports so far seem to suggest that the guy wasn't really known to be into guns, for him to suddenly be in a room with 10x fully automatic weapons, out of the blue - isn't only weird, but it must have been damn expensive, how/why would someone just finance that amount of hardware, (unless he stole it all??) and why would someone who isn't really known to law enforcement suddenly decide to go to all of this,
It is pretty weird,
It is pretty weird,
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I watched tons of videos of him shooting, the sound of gunfire matches the magazine capacity of a standard magazine, not to say! He couldn't have a drum magazine, he might had one or two of them.
The videos tends to suggest 10 second bursts at around 650/700rpm but actual rate of fire is kind of hard to pin down other than it doesn't sound as slow as rapid semi-auto or as fast as say an m16 at full ~950rpm.
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BNL News are reporting that the gunman was a multi millionaire, owned two planes. Which would explain how he could afford to spend 70k in playing games before he started to shoot and how he could afford all the firearms.
Not sure. Like I said before he's a retired accountant so could be loaded. Also in the days leading up to this he bet very heavily in the casinos. Perhaps he won enough money to buy them? Hell its america, perhaps he won them?
These things are always pretty weird. They are by definition weird. It's weird to shoot hundreds of people at a music festival, weird to crash a car into people then stab them, weird to drive a truck through a crowd, weird to fly a plane into a building, weird to plant bombs...
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So crudely extrapolating for life expectancy, in the average lifetime nearly 1% of US citizens can expect to be shot. Doesn't sound brilliant tbh.
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Looks like you’re correct about the registration/licensing so I take that back. www.nevadacarry.org
I don’t believe that fully automatic weapons are permitted for normal citizens though.
sorry if this is off topic but as it's getting into gun nerd territory I might as well throw in a comment
200 actually but it doesn't matter you can break one of them down into a 100 round belt if required and/or indeed join them up too... the drum or box you attach to the weapon is just for convenience when patrolling... for example with a minimi you'd have one (either plastic or canvas) that you can place a 200 round belt into.. this just saves it from getting in the way when patrolling... likewise with the GPMG there is a small box you can attach too (it is less common though we acquired some in Iraq) and fill with (IIRC it was 100 rounds) - this again simply saves you from having a lose belt of 50-100 rounds dangling off the thing on patrol.. of course in the case of the GPMG if you get into a contact that initial box (or loose belt) doesn't last very long and you're quite quickly going to slap on one of the much larger belts of 7.62 you and/or your buddy is carrying... in the case of the minimi you might well have a second box or canvas bag thing with 200 rounds on your person but again probably have some loose belts of 5.56 in your daysack too.
anyway this is all bit off topic basically this box/belt thing is silly - a LMG (such as the minimi or M249 in the US) or MMG (such as a GPMG) simply takes a belt of ammunition... whether or not you've decided to coil this belt up and put it in a box or canvas bag or not isn't really relevant here... if anything it is rather impractical as the shooter is quite clearly going to want to use rather more ammunition
Yeah other new sites reporting the police saying they were all legally owned firearms which he had bought over the years, one of which he had modded to fully auto.
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