Mass Shooting in Las Vegas

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I've always understood Terrorism to have a political motive. Different place different meaning I assume. Either way it doesn't make any less horrific with how you decide to label it.
 
Yes, different states seem to have different definitions.
However I think it's reasonable to claim that what has just occurred is a form of terrorism.
Killing nearly 60 people and wounding hundreds is the very definition of terror imho, thousands of people were utterly terrified and in fear for their lives for an extended period of time.
 
mmj_uk said:
From what has been reported he had bomb making materials in the boot of his car, so assuming guns were banned in the USA and he'd killed 100 people and injured 200 with a nail bomb instead where would the blame have layed?
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He's an edge case. You can't leap from gun control to... nail control just because this guy had both. It's not a fair comparison. Most gun violence is perpetrated by people who wouldn't know how to make a bomb.
 
There does appear to be a big disconnect between the way that the British define terrorism and the way Americans do.

If you check Merriam-Webster's dictionary terrorism is violence against people in general but adds coercion as a factor ...this is exactly why Americans over use the word terrorism all the time and lock people for it so much.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/terrorism

However Oxford adds the caveat that is it especially in the pursuit of political aims...which, call me biased, makes far more sense...otherwise you are just a mass murderer in my view.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/terrorism
 
Tuppy_Glossop said:
That defines "Act of terrorism", not "Terrorism".
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Splitting hairs!
/pedantic

But anyways who actually cares?
What's important now is that things are put in motion to help reduce the chance of another horrific mass murder/act of terrorism like this from ever happening again! I won't hold my breath though :-(

Just found out the utter idiot that is trump received more funding from the gun lobby during the campaign than any other candidate !?
So yeah, no chance anything is going to change :(
 
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It's horrible that mass shootings like this keep on happening, but nothing will change. Gun attitudes are too entrenched in the USA. Honestly I think there could be another dozen mass shootings and I still question whether anything would change. Having said that, Nevada has to tighten gun laws, it's one of the most lax states in the country. Nevada doesn't require a permit to own a gun, guns don't need to be registered, there is no limit on how many guns a person can own (hence why this guy had over thirty), large-capacity magazines are legal, guns are allowed at bars and casinos, etc.
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
You should do better research or you will continue to make yourself look very foolish!
In Nevada where this mass shooting took place, the definition of terrorism is exactly what occurred!
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But people commenting on whether something is or isn't terrorism are mostly talking about the use of the word in a general sense and not some legal definition that strictly applies to Nevada law (and not necessarily US federal law either).
 
I thought we were discussing if the mass shooting in Las Vegas was Terrorism ??
Which under Nevada laws and definition of Terrorism it actually was!!

But it really doesn't matter, far more important things to be worrying about then how different places define a word!!



**Fun Gun Fact Of The Day**

Treating gunshot wounds in America costs $2.8 BILLION a year :eek: :rolleyes:
 
VincentHanna said:
And the difference between the two is?...
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is it not rather obvious - one is a local legal definition of an act of terrorism in the state of Nevada the other is a commonly used word in the English language

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
I thought we were discussing if the mass shooting in Las Vegas was Terrorism ??
Which under Nevada laws and definition of Terrorism it actually was!!

But it really doesn't matter, far more important things to be worrying about then how different places define a word!!
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Well the local law enforcement wouldn't state that it was a terror attack and it isn't clear whether federal law or Nevada law would prevail here... it was you who decided to bring up how a local place defines a word in the context of their local laws, others simply pointed out that terrorism generally involves having a political or ideological motive.
 
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You can bet that the laws on gun ownership would be amended quicker than you could blink if it were US politicians getting slaughtered rather than civilians or school children.
 
enkoda said:
You can bet that the laws on gun ownership would be amended quicker than you could blink if it were US politicians getting slaughtered rather than civilians or school children.
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Yep, the same way that they would be far less flippant about invading other countries if it was their own flesh and blood on the front line and coming back in body bags :mad:
 
daz said:
Cannot see a legit reason why anyone needs to own an assault rifle.
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Because.... reasons.

Also I got told off last time by all pendants saying "The AR 15 is not an assault rifle it's a semi automatic rifle BIG DIFFERENCE". However, I didn't know last time with a mod you can basically make it automatic... which I assume this guy did/may have done.... then unloaded clip after clip into a crowd of people.
 
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wolfie138 said:
i'd assume they'd x-ray cases for that very reason?
i can't see metal detectors being an answer, as the issue wasn't someone wandering around w/ weapons, it was a guy taking a bunch up to his room, therefore i don't see a need for hotels to start installing metal detectors, just x-raying bags over a certain size.
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so now you're saying bags the guy just carry his gun on him?
 
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