i7 4790K or go Ryzen?

SB118 · 30 Sep 2017 at 18:54

I've got the chance to upgrade my system. Already coughed out for a 1080ti (my wife is really regretting buying a 4K tv!) but i torn about the cpu/mobo.

I can hover around MM and chuck a few hundred quid at an i7-4790K (i've already picked up a board & ram) and call it done.

OR, i can sell my tat collection and get an r7 1700, new board and new ram (only got ddr3 right now) and have a fully new machine? (maybe sell a kidney and get an m.2 drive too)

I play a few games, (Subnautica, , Crysis3, Project Cars, TF2, OMD2, Tomb Raider, etc) nothing overly tasking, but until now i've run a HD 7950 so i've been turning down the settings for a few years.

I don't do any video production (beyond chopping up videos of the kids playing and making gifs of the cakes we make for our facebook page (baby gender reveals, etc)

Will i see any real improvement if i throw £550-£700 at a Ryzen setup (ddr4 seems to be mental money) over £200 for an intel chip? Or is there a comparable intel system i can spec for similar money? (probably not, i know Ryzen is hammering intel on bang per buck)

I'm not planning on going multi-GPU but i'd be looking to clock the chip a bit so a suitable mobo would be required.

I'm also thinking about future proofing, this is probably the last upgrade i'll be doing for the foreseeable future, so is it worth aiming as high as possible (i did mention thread ripper to my wife and she threatened to divorce me, so that's probably a no)

So, 4 cores or 8?

Thanks

Journey · 30 Sep 2017 at 18:58

16GB DDR4 3000MHz is £120, get a B350 motherboard for £100, and then an R7 1700 for £270-80 - and maybe a better cooler if you need one and want a higher end OC on the CPU.

Or buy a 4770/4790K for £150-200, and swap it out in 12 months after the new Ryzen refresh is out, and the total spend will be the same over all once you sell what you just bought.

orbitalwalsh · 30 Sep 2017 at 19:00

@Journey I think the ram we all quote is now £155 from seeing a previous post.. :/

Journey · 30 Sep 2017 at 19:11

orbitalwalsh said:
@Journey I think the ram we all quote is now £155 from seeing a previous post.. :/

Indeed, in which case I can't recommend anything other than to shop around since there are still great deals on 3000-3200 under £130, smells of scalping on a popular product, RAM prices have not gone up 30+% in 4 weeks, that's just greed. Sad to see

orbitalwalsh · 30 Sep 2017 at 19:23

Journey said:
Indeed, in which case I can't recommend anything other than to shop around since there are still great deals on 3000-3200 under £130, smells of scalping on a popular product, RAM prices have not gone up 30+% in 4 weeks, that's just greed. Sad to see

I've seen the shortages as well as seeing it from Samsung with brother working for them , but the Teamgroup ones as you say is increased due to gold digging a bit.

would have understood if stock had run out then was bought at a higher price of weakening to pound - but they had only just come back into stock and seems there was quite a bit of them

And there's goes my build for the 6th out the window

ExoMale · 30 Sep 2017 at 19:39

If you already got ram and a motherboard to got an i7, then might aswell just get that, it will still be capable and from the sounds of it much cheaper option which would please the wife ha

Aneskimo · 30 Sep 2017 at 22:46

There is still life in the 4790k but obviously not as much as the new Ryzen chips, so part from splashing out a bit more and spending time selling/ buying you will get a much more capable setup.

Marcoloves360 · 1 Oct 2017 at 08:15

Just keep the i7

mistersprinkles · 2 Oct 2017 at 21:47

Badfish · 3 Oct 2017 at 13:56

i7-4790K is a decent CPU, will keep you going a couple of years if you OC it. Then in a couple of years you can fork out for a new system.

orbitalwalsh · 3 Oct 2017 at 14:28

@SB118

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/software/project_cars_2_pc_performance_review/8

not taking into account of overclocks but core count is key more then overal threads for the new game

cant comment on the others you play though

since your already one foot in the grave so to speak- get the i7 and sell next year- 8 core Intel should become mainstream by then on the road map . i7 should still keep some value too for resell

ExoMale · 3 Oct 2017 at 15:19

Looks like you only need a 6 core for best performance then for PJC2

orbitalwalsh · 3 Oct 2017 at 15:23

ExoMale said:
Looks like you only need a 6 core for best performance then for PJC2

£120 b350 mobo, ryzen 1600 and £150 16gb 3200/3000 vs same price z370 , i5 8600k and same speed ram to keep level playing field and then 4000hz ..... be interesting to see which one give the best performance per pound

Doogles · 3 Oct 2017 at 15:24

If you can get a 4790k for £100 do that.

ExoMale · 3 Oct 2017 at 15:40

orbitalwalsh said:
£120 b350 mobo, ryzen 1600 and £150 16gb 3200/3000 vs same price z370 , i5 8600k and same speed ram to keep level playing field and then 4000hz ..... be interesting to see which one give the best performance per pound

From what I’ve been reading in general, intel are best for gaming and that new processor pawns the ryzen in that chart above, I guess it will be down to which side you want to bat for and how much you want to spend in the end