Fracking banned immediately in Scotland

Thing is, fracking has never made sense in Scotland, it's a good source of potential energy in England, but this is the issue with energy policy being led by Westminster, it's one area where regional differences should mean specific policy directions rather than a one size fits all approach
 
Diddums said:
Can someone explain in stupid exactly what fracking is? My (very limited due to limited arsed) understanding is it's basically shaking / breaking the ground so that gas comes closer to the surface where it's harvested. Give or take?
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Traditional oil/gas production is simply just drilling a hole into a reservoir and letting it flow out under it's own pressure as the rock is porous enough allowing it to flow through the rock.

Fracking is used where the rock isn't so porous and there's various techniques used, predominantly though it's done hydraulicly, so basically pumping high pressure water into the well to force water into the cracks to open them up more, usually with chemicals to aid the penetration into the rock and also to keep the rock open when you start then flowing the gas out.
 
Jokester said:
Traditional oil/gas production is simply just drilling a hole into a reservoir and letting it flow out under it's own pressure as the rock is porous enough allowing it to flow through the rock.

Fracking is used where the rock isn't so porous and there's various techniques used, predominantly though it's done hydraulicly, so basically pumping high pressure water into the well to force water into the cracks to open them up more, usually with chemicals to aid the penetration into the rock and also to keep the rock open when you start then flowing the gas out.
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Gotcha, thanks. Will do a bit more research tomorrow or so. Should probably know these things, what with doing an engineering degree and all :p
 
Far too much money in it for companies to stop, some country will always allow it.
Shell have a refinery in Qatar just for GTL (Gas To Liquid) production so it's not going to stop anytime soon.

PS: If your shell engine oil has pureplus wording in it then its from fracking..
 
Jokester said:
Indeed.

*whisper* we've been fracking for decades

Nimbyism is the issue here.
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indeed, bunch of fracking idiots who no doubt all drive cars, take foreign holidays via jet planes etc..etc..

KNiVES said:
I have no strong opinion either way but energy prices are a bit ridiculous right now and we need to think about these things carefully before resorting to nimbyism.
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what do you mean by ridiculous - as in ridiculously low?
 
pooley said:
still laugh to think we still still use oil as fuel in this day and age!!
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Probably still be using it in 30 years time. Cheap, proven, and alternatives still very much in their infancy/ have significant problems to overcome.
 
Were there any fraccing sites in Scotland ? The ones I know of are Lancashire, Lincolnshire and Merseyside. Have they just banned something that wasn't going to happen anyway ?
 
peterwalkley said:
Were there any fraccing sites in Scotland ? The ones I know of are Lancashire, Lincolnshire and Merseyside. Have they just banned something that wasn't going to happen anyway ?
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Ineos were wanting to drill in the Grangemouth area but never managed to get a license.

Instead they're looking at importing fracked LPG from the US.
 
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opstrat said:
I hear what you are saying but it is exactly that, out of sight out of mind. people are more concerned with the chemicals used and what is being put into the environment than what is being pumped miles out to sea. I wouldn't fancy a fracking site on my door step personally nor would I like to see areas of the green belt used for them. its bad enough watching fields being sold off round about my area for housing schemes to be built. followed by a motorway system to support it.
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You’ll be pleased to know that those chemicals you’re worried about are almost certainly banned from use in the UK.

A fracking site in the UK is no more likely to look any worse (probably better and cleaner in fact) than your average agricultural building/farmyard.

The US fracking industry have a lot to answer for unfortunately. They really were awful in the past (and are still not so great now in many places).

The only real environmental reasons to ban fracking are from a climate change perspective. But considering this ban is from a Scottish government super keen on offshore oil and gas it’s unlikely that’s really been a part of their thinking.

Edit: Out of interest anyone on here pro Geothermal energy? ;)
 
So nice to read some educated/industry opinions on this.
Some nimby idiot once "virtually" went off on one at me on Facebook when I said we have been fracking for decades, with no major issues.
I really can understand nobody wants a drilling rig in their backyard but the fear that has been brought with this is mind-blowing.
 
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I wish they would allow fracking and tax it properly and put the money to good use (for example the NHS or the Police). Banning things just means the Scottish government lose out on a potential revenue stream which will mean that public services must suffer as a result.
 
Jokester said:
Ineos were wanting to drill in the Grangemouth area but never managed to get a license.

Instead they're looking at importing fracked LPG from the US.
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@Jokester Cheers. I knew Ineos were after Gas but wasn't aware of sites in Scotland. The Lancashire and Merseyside ones make sense if they come off though. BBC news last night showed a geological map of potential across the Lowlands but it looks like they never got to the stage of of any specific locations.
 
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