All Ryzen owners, does it hurt you as well?

Like I said, 1080p is still by far the most common resolution used.

Yeah, but how many are using GTX1080/1080Ti on that res? Because only then the 8700K can show any benefit.
Any GPU less than GTX1080, and the 8700K makes no sense over a Ryzen 7 for example, which is £100 cheaper. Or makes no sense over a 7800X, 6800K/6850K, 5930K or even 1600X, a CPU £200 cheaper!!!!!
 
It doesn't mean it is the most common resolution used with the high-end CPUs and GPUs. Many people who game at 1080p have entry-level GPUs with 2-4GB of VRAM and older quad-core CPUs. That could be limiting them to 1080p because they wouldn't get any decent fps at higher resolutions. Not everyone has cash to spend on latest PC components.

The point I am making is that the i7 8700K is the better option over a SkylakeX cpu for gaming as it is cheaper overall. Of course not everyone has cash to buy the latest stuff but that isn't what I am saying.
 
Yeah, but how many are using GTX1080/1080Ti on that res? Because only then the 8700K can show any benefit.
Any GPU less than GTX1080, and the 8700K makes no sense over a Ryzen 7 for example, which is £100 cheaper. Or makes no sense over a 7800X, 6800K/6850K, 5930K or even 1600X, a CPU £200 cheaper!!!!!

I guess it depends on individual circumstances. You will get some people that overspec the gpu in case they decide to move up to 1440p or they might be running a 1080p 144Hz monitor and want max fps with everything on ultra settings.

Also as for the 8700K making no sense over a Ryzen 7 well that wasn't what this discussion was about was it ? You initially just mentioned Broadwell-E and SkylakeX which are more expensive than Coffee Lake. Yes I know that Broadwell-E is now a lot cheaper but that is due to X299. At the time of release it was priced similar to X299.
 
I think I'll still be recommending Ryzen to friends and family - the Intel platform is still a better choice if money is no object. But let's be honest - very few of us have unlimitted budgets, and thread count matters a lot when your not just looking at gaming benchmarks.

I'd rather have a cheaper CPU and Mobo with almost the same performance so I could buy more ram or a better graphics card, or a faster M2 drive. This will always be more noticeable for day to day usage than I few more percentage points in some benchmarks - well for me at least :D
 
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