16 months for having a "full-blown sexual relationship" with a 15-year-old

Vonhelmet · 7 Oct 2017 at 10:21

Dis86 said:
No no, it's very black and white. Is the boy legally a child? Yes.

Paedophile - noun - someone who is sexually attracted to children.

Ergo she is a paedophile.

You're using a dictionary definition for paedophilia and a legal definition for children. You can't do that.

Is paedophilia even legally defined? I suspect not.

Dis86 · 7 Oct 2017 at 10:23

Vonhelmet said:
You're using a dictionary definition for paedophilia and a legal definition for children. You can't do that.

Is paedophilia even legally defined? I suspect not.

No but the act of engaging in intercourse with a child is legally defined. You don't bang a child if you're not sexually attracted to them.

MooMoo444 · 7 Oct 2017 at 10:33

Nice.

mmj_uk · 7 Oct 2017 at 10:35

Ephemera said:
"You engaged in a full-blown sexual relationship with a 15-year-old child," she said.

"I accept he was consenting - what 15-year-old schoolboy would turn down such an attractive offer?

Quoted from the BBC link, by the female judge.

Imagine if the roles were reversed. Pretty disgusting really.

Doesn't that contradict the law when it comes to the legal age of consent?

Orionaut · 7 Oct 2017 at 10:40

Dis86 said:
No no, it's very black and white. Is the boy legally a child? Yes.

Paedophile - noun - someone who is sexually attracted to children.

Ergo she is a paedophile.

Why is it that Humans are the only animal species where post pubescent, sexually mature, individuals are still regarded as infants??

NewGamer11 · 7 Oct 2017 at 10:51

Dis86 said:
No no, it's very black and white. Is the boy legally a child? Yes.

Paedophile - noun - someone who is sexually attracted to children.

Ergo she is a paedophile.

No. A paedophile is attracted to pre-pubescent children. Don’t try to double down on your wrongness.

Raz · 7 Oct 2017 at 10:53

VincentHanna said:
Because child abuse is funny and all Dad's should just let their lads have sex with teachers because they are horny little buggers, dur!

If my 15 year old boy or girl had sex with a teacher, I would be straight on to the police.

Indeed. Shows how some people here think.

Sasahara · 7 Oct 2017 at 11:00

Dis86 said:
No no, it's very black and white. Is the boy legally a child? Yes.

Paedophile - noun - someone who is sexually attracted to children.

Ergo she is a paedophile.

Using that definition any that has sex with someone 16-17 is also a paedo.

Raz · 7 Oct 2017 at 11:02

Dis86 said:
No no, it's very black and white. Is the boy legally a child? Yes.

Paedophile - noun - someone who is sexually attracted to children.

Ergo she is a paedophile.

Yeah no. That's word play. Massive difference between someone liking a 10 year old and someone liking a 15 year old.

Like a 9 year old?! Paedophile!
Like a 15 year old who will turn 16 in a month and is fully physically matured?! Paedophile!

Not really black and white....

Lots of boys at 15 can pass for being older, and physiology have no problem being sexually active. I really doubt the teacher is a paedophile in the strict sense of the word, what she is guilty of though is abusing her position.

She is responsible for him in the absence of his parents and has a duty of care towards him to ensure he makes the best decisions for him. She's also essentially groomed him - that's exactly what would have been said about this if a male teacher had done the same.

Thekwango · 7 Oct 2017 at 11:03

Raz said:
Indeed. Shows how some people here think.

It's probably not how they think at all. They are most likely just trying to appear funny.
In all likelihood if any of the guys on here found out someone in their 20's was banging their 15 year old son they wouldn't be going 'get in my son' they'd be having a **** fit. But it's 'cooler' to act the knob on the internet!!

spoffle · 7 Oct 2017 at 11:10

Dis86 said:
Legally yes. It does. It also makes her desperate (buuuuuuuurn!). The lines are lines. This was a grown woman in her 20s banging a child.

No it doesn't. Go look up what "paedo" actually means.

Legally, she isn't actually a paedo.

Vonhelmet · 7 Oct 2017 at 11:13

spoffle said:
No it doesn't. Go look up what "paedo" actually means.

Legally, she isn't actually a paedo.

Paedophilia is not a legal concept, and being a paedophile is not illegal, nor should it be. Being sexually attracted to children is a mental health issue of some sort, but it's not illegal. Acting on those urges is illegal. That's what she's in trouble for.

mmj_uk · 7 Oct 2017 at 11:16

Orionaut said:
Why is it that Humans are the only animal species where post pubescent, sexually mature, individuals are still regarded as infants??

We are an evolved species with the intelligence to live by a set of rules that stop animalistic things like parents eating their children?

NewGamer11 · 7 Oct 2017 at 11:16

Dis86 said:
No but the act of engaging in intercourse with a child is legally defined. You don't bang a child if you're not sexually attracted to them.

It’s not legally defined as paedophilia though.

spoffle · 7 Oct 2017 at 11:22

Vonhelmet said:
Paedophilia is not a legal concept, and being a paedophile is not illegal, nor should it be. Being sexually attracted to children is a mental health issue of some sort, but it's not illegal. Acting on those urges is illegal. That's what she's in trouble for.

Yes, but her actions aren't considered paedophilic. It might not be a legal concept. Though I never said it was,

lude1962 · 7 Oct 2017 at 11:30

I suspect the sentence given has taken into account the maturity of the 'poor child', if the 'victim' had been 17 the sentence would still have been the same.

Bassmansam · 7 Oct 2017 at 11:39

Evangelion said:
That is incredibly unprofessional.

When I was a 15 year old boy I had no sexual interest in my teachers, and would have been traumatised if they'd attempted sexual contact with me.

A few of my teahers were hot.. guess you had uglies

Glaucus · 7 Oct 2017 at 11:47

Evangelion said:
That is incredibly unprofessional.

When I was a 15 year old boy I had no sexual interest in my teachers, and would have been traumatised if they'd attempted sexual contact with me.

Sheldon is that you?

Diddums · 7 Oct 2017 at 11:58

Legalities aside, as a 15 year old lad plowing his teacher, he must be the king of the world. I certainly remember my science teacher at that age. Phwoooaaaar.

Raz · 7 Oct 2017 at 12:00

mmj_uk said:
We are an evolved species with the intelligence to live by a set of rules that stop animalistic things like parents eating their children?

Yes but that's not really relevant here since it's natural for sexual maturity to be the key development for sex/reproduction. However we do know that it's harmful for young girls generally to give birth but that's not the same for girls who are 15+. The age also comes down to [emotional] maturity, and you can see in other cultures younger children are much more mature due to growing up in harsher environments.