Or save him a fair chunk of money and set the 1600 to 3.8Ghz with some cheap RAM at 2933Mhz. Put the rest to the RX580 and he'll have a system that will see him past at least one monitor upgrade. Maybe two with DX12 and Freesync.
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Or save him a fair chunk of money and set the 1600 to 3.8Ghz with some cheap RAM at 2933Mhz. Put the rest to the RX580 and he'll have a system that will see him past at least one monitor upgrade. Maybe two with DX12 and Freesync.
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Cheap 2933mhz RAM? Where exactly are you finding this cheap RAM?
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I'm finding £159 for 16GB DDR4 3000mhz - far from cheap.
All of the RAM is highly priced, 2133, 2400, 2666, 3000MHz etc. Cheapest 16GB (2x 8GB) is currently £149.99 from OCUK, £9 more gets you 3000MHz rated.
Which brings no guarantee of running at 3000mhz thus gimping ryzen even further and making it even slower than the 8400.
Ryzen is much more efficient with memory use than Intel. So you'd maybe be in a worse situation on Intel as you really need fast the fast RAM to see the best of Coffee lake. But you already know this....
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It's widely known that Ryzen benefits hugely from fast RAM (3000mhz/3200mhz) much more then Intel CPU's
Widely misunderstood more like. Take a look at the Hexus review of Coffee lake. They did a few memory tests.
Might help the poor OP.
Got my memory at 3600, the difference over 2133 was minimal in my own real world testing.
Ryzen however benefited hugely.
Funny how you mention hexus as they show the latency that ryzen has.
Exactly?
Exactly how the cost of getting a 8400 over a 1600 is minimized by getting cheaper ram and not have it adversely affect performance.
Didn't think you'd get it.
Small increase in memory speed in Ryzen = big performance.
Big increase in memory speed on Intel = minimal gains.
Why?
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Yeah yeah its more efficient with memory, it also has a much higher latency. It means little to nothing when the 8400 is crushing it in gaming though does it?
Watch that lead increase when faster GPU's arrive. What about zen2 you cry, well that throws the whole value thing out of the window when zen2 might only just about equal the 8400.
Watch that lead increase when faster GPU's arrive. What about zen2 you cry, well that throws the whole value thing out of the window when zen2 might only just about equal the 8400.
Gavin nothing is getting crushed. You can keep saying that over and over but the fact is zero crushing is going on and you know it.
Why? The 8400 even beats that lol.
Yep, these look even.
I'd find some tests at 640x480 with a Titans or pair of Vega cards if that's the rock you want to cling to. You might see some crushing then.
You're not seeing the bigger picture here, you're talking about future proofing but what happens when the 1170/1260 is equal to the 1080ti?
Bottlenecks.
Hell, a 1700 is holding back a 1070 in 3dmark. These are my own results, ram is stock for the intel. Ryzen has ram at 3466 https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13805973/fs/13418487
Bottlenecks.
Hell, a 1700 is holding back a 1070 in 3dmark. These are my own results, ram is stock for the intel. Ryzen has ram at 3466 https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13805973/fs/13418487