16 months for having a "full-blown sexual relationship" with a 15-year-old

Tefal said:
and lots of the girls in the Rotherham child prostitution cases consented too.


getting a child to agree to something as an adult, especially onenin a position of power over them, is relatively trivial.

your point?
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The point is that he was a sexually mature horny boy. Of course he is going to consent to sex with a woman who was offering it to him. What if she waited a few months until he was 16, would you still call it rape?
What about other countries like Brazil where the legal age of consent is 13 and they can have sexual activity with a partner 5 years old than them. Is that still rape?
Tefal said:
cause Alton towers staff aren't fingering the guests?
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That was a lighthearted comment towards getting past legislation on how some companies can class a person as an adult at 12 years old. But CLEARLY they are not adults.
 
Dis86 said:
Because under different circumstances people are seen as children. Tefal actually covers it very nicely in the sentence below.

As I stated before, it's not really a question of an age cut-off or physical one as these do vary massively and we have situations where people do not go through puberty. It's probably more about mental development and taking advantage of someone who is not yet mentally an adult.
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The offence doesn't mention mental capacity, it refers to a position of trust.

So... I'll ask again... if you were convicted of sexual activity with a child while in a position of trust, and that child was 17, would that make you a paedophile?
 
FlakGunna said:
The point is that he was a sexually mature horny boy. Of course he is going to consent to sex with a woman who was offering it to him. What if she waited a few months until he was 16, would you still call it rape?
What about other countries like Brazil where the legal age of consent is 13 and they can have sexual activity with a partner 5 years old than them. Is that still rape?


That was a lighthearted comment towards getting past legislation on how some companies can class a person as an adult at 12 years old. But CLEARLY they are not adults.
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they're only adults foe ticket prices. not for anything legal
 
Vonhelmet said:
The offence doesn't mention mental capacity, it refers to a position of trust.

So... I'll ask again... if you were convicted of sexual activity with a child while in a position of trust, and that child was 17, would that make you a paedophile?
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in common usage yes.

in the predictably boring pedantic usage you're using no.

happy?
 
Vonhelmet said:
You'd call someone a paedophile for having sex with a 17 year old? Where does that leave the age of consent and teenagers having sex?
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I said no von.

no one cares about yet another tedious semantics argument with you.

go masturbate over a dictionary or something construcrive.
 
Tefal said:
I said no von.

no one cares about yet another tedious semantics argument with you.

go masturbate over a dictionary or something construcrive.
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You said yes and no... hence my question.

But yes, I'll go masturbate over a dictionary. I'll make sure it's over 13/16/18.
 
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It has just struck me that she's only a year older than me. I'm not sure if that makes me feel old, or makes me wonder how someone ends up teaching people only 7 or 8 years younger than them. All my teachers were at least 35.
 
There's some more details about the case here:
http://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/new...upil-in-her-parents-house-and-hotel-1-5226080

Even her defendant called her a paedophile unless I'm misinterpreting and to be honest that's what 99.9% of the population will see her as so she's effectively wrecked her career chances.

Reading the statement below it sounds more like a relationship with a younger brother rather than an equal partner and the fact that she initiated contact by friending him it all sounds very much like grooming to me, plus the fact that the boys father reported her suggests he thought the same - for all we know the boy might be very immature for his age. He doesn't sound like a Jack the Lad going on walks and being besotted with her.

The court heard the inappropriate sexual relationship began at the end of January when McBrearty friend-requested the schoolboy on social media, a move which was said to make him “feel special”.

She told him to delete the request but later contacted him again on Instagram.

Lisa Matthews, prosecuting, said: “She started to take him out to parks, including the Olympic Park, they went on strolls and out for meals.

“He appeared to be besotted with her.”

The relationship ended when the boy’s father contacted police.

Emma Sharron, defending, said: “This is a young lady who has had a spectacular fall from grace - university educated, comes from a respectable family - she has been utterly disgraced by this.”

She told the judge: “She will of course be branded a paedophile for the rest of her life. She is a sex offender.”
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Acme said:
It has just struck me that she's only a year older than me. I'm not sure if that makes me feel old, or makes me wonder how someone ends up teaching people only 7 or 8 years younger than them. All my teachers were at least 35.
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Bound to happen, surely. Finish training as a secondary school teacher and away you go.
 
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