Friend advice £6k VXR finance or save?

chaparral said:
But todays ST's are only an XR (IE XR2, XR3i,etc) replacement
RS is a higher class model version ...

Plus isn't the ST220 output about 225bhp which is roughly the same as a 80s & 90s RS Escort/Sierra Cosworth
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Yes I was only joking about putting my 220 in a garage for 20 years :p The cosworths were way ahead of the competition and very fast for there time and are even still quick by modern standards that's why they gained cult status in the late 80's/90's. They are easily modifiable to 400bhp which is what makes it so attractive to Ford fanboys even now but the prices of them are absolutely ridiculous. Your talking between 40k-100k now for certain examples. Not sure why they demand so much more than the Escort Cossie though
 
The Cosworths were AWD and a lot lighter though. AFAIK they were only priced similar to the STs today, maybe cheaper. They pretty much came out of group B rally before it was banned.
 
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Nasher said:
The Cosworths were AWD and a lot lighter though. AFAIK they were only priced similar to the STs today, maybe cheaper.
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Sierra Cosworth was £19,500 in 1986. Use the bank of England's inflation calculator and that's £50k today give or take.

Focus RS is currently £32k

Focus RS is 220bhp/tonne Sierra Cosworth was a generous 185bhp/tonne
 
I don't get why the Sierra Cosworth demands nearly double the price what the Escort version is given they have nearly the same performance.
 
I actually liked the Corsa VXR I drove, thought it was a good little car from Vauxhall for a change.

Have I caught Chav? :(
 
[TW]Fox said:
These cars are not classic because they were any good they are classic because they remind wealthy people of their youth.
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This is the reality of the Ford market and why I have about 45 home computers, boxed and mainly mint. You reach a point in your life (call it you 40's) when you can buy all the Scalextric's, Big Tracks, Hornby Railways, Home Computers, Toys of your choice you want, so sometimes when you have some free cash you do. I do it with home computers, others do it with RS500's, RS2000's, RS1800's, 280 Brooklands etc etc
 
Frozennova said:
The 100k+ Sierras are RS500 models
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The one to have, built to run big numbers in ETCC/BTCC/Aus/DTM etc. Remember the ultimate race versions were over 650bhp. The standard Cossie was maxed at just over 300bhp I seem to recall, RS500 opened it up massively.
 
Housey said:
The one to have, built to run big numbers in ETCC/BTCC/Aus/DTM etc. Remember the ultimate race versions were over 650bhp. The standard Cossie was maxed at just over 300bhp I seem to recall, RS500 opened it up massively.
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220bhp or so is all they ever made in factory trim iirc. They were engineered to be far more capable, but politics changed a lot of that such as turbo suppliers (Cosworth designed the exhaust manifold to utilize a Twin Scroll Holset but Ford dictated it must be a Garrett unit)
 
Frozennova said:
220bhp or so is all they ever made in factory trim iirc. They were engineered to be far more capable, but politics changed a lot of that such as turbo suppliers (Cosworth designed the exhaust manifold to utilize a Twin Scroll Holset but Ford dictated it must be a Garrett unit)
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I mean the Touring Car racers, pretty sure they were over 300bhp in standard first generation Sierra Cosworth form and the RS500's at their best (as run by Dick Johnson in Australia) they were over 650bhp, 700bhp I think was rumoured.
 
Housey said:
I mean the Touring Car racers, pretty sure they were over 300bhp in standard first generation Sierra Cosworth form and the RS500's at their best (as run by Dick Johnson in Australia) they were over 650bhp, 700bhp I think was rumoured.
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I'm with you now, homologation models were a different animal, even now they're mental. The production models looking back are somewhat meh
 
Frozennova said:
I'm with you now, homologation models were a different animal, even now they're mental. The production models looking back are somewhat meh
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Group A (and Group B to a far lesser extent being more specialised) really jump started the whole homologation specials I feel. The RS500 and before it Rover Vitesse were classic examples of cars specifically designed for race series.
 
Housey said:
This is the reality of the Ford market and why I have about 45 home computers, boxed and mainly mint. You reach a point in your life (call it you 40's) when you can buy all the Scalextric's, Big Tracks, Hornby Railways, Home Computers, Toys of your choice you want, so sometimes when you have some free cash you do. I do it with home computers, others do it with RS500's, RS2000's, RS1800's, 280 Brooklands etc etc
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Have you got a QL? :)
 
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