Help with PC £1000 budget

Philosofried

Philosofried

Philosofried

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Hello all,

PC packed up last night after 5 years with no upgrades (quite proud of that). I am looking to get a new PC early next month, budget of £1000 can go up to £1200 MAYBE. I would need this PC to last atleast 4 years (will be getting on fiance, not flushed with cash). Can anyone help please or at least advise please?
 
Hello and welcome to the forum.

Can you provide a bit more information, other than budget? What will be the main uses. Should Windows be included or are you sorted for that. What monitor (resolution/refresh rate/Gsync or Freesync or Nosync) will you be using. Will you be building yourself. How much storage is okay for your needs, or initial needs (if unsure, how much did you use on the old PC). Help us to help you better.
 
 
As mentioned by danny, if your able to answer the above helps building a system easier or to find a pre-built

windows does take a chunk out of the budget

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £1,210.73
(includes shipping: £15.90)



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Danny75 said:
Hello and welcome to the forum.

Can you provide a bit more information, other than budget? What will be the main uses. Should Windows be included or are you sorted for that. What monitor (resolution/refresh rate/Gsync or Freesync or Nosync) will you be using. Will you be building yourself. How much storage is okay for your needs, or initial needs (if unsure, how much did you use on the old PC). Help us to help you better.
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Windows to be included, 10 will do. have a monitor 44hz which is about 3-4years old, it works, happy to live with it for now. Will be getting friend to build as i dont really know how :(. Would like 2 hard drives, one for windows to be installed and only windows, other drive will store everything else
 
Ryzen's Infinity Fabric works at half of the frequency of the memory modules! Why do you give him crappy slow 3000 MHz modules? Why do you give him a Gigabyte motherboard, when Asrock completely trashes it. Has two M.2 slots for future upgradability!

orbitalwalsh said:
As mentioned by danny, if your able to answer the above helps building a system easier or to find a pre-built

windows does take a chunk out of the budget
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Windows can be gotten for close to free of charge. Why do you confuse the person? :confused:
 
4K8KW10 said:
Ryzen's Infinity Fabric works at half of the frequency of the memory modules! Why do you give him crappy slow 3000 MHz modules? Why do you give him a Gigabyte motherboard, when Asrock completely trashes it. Has two M.2 slots for future upgradability!



Windows can be gotten for close to free of charge. Why do you confuse the person? :confused:
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I leave it to others to mention cheaper alternatives - I have many reasons why not to haha , even though I use this way myself :D

@Philosofried

im pushing over £20 for monitor, gpu and your storage - 1tb hdd and 128GB of the fastest storage medium you can get just for windows and applications

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £1,221.68
(includes shipping: £15.90)



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Philosofried said:
Windows to be included, 10 will do. have a monitor 44hz which is about 3-4years old, it works, happy to live with it for now. Will be getting friend to build as i dont really know how :(. Would like 2 hard drives, one for windows to be installed and only windows, other drive will store everything else
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Cheers. I take it that's a 144Hz monitor. Will assume 1080p and no Gsync or Freesync so either Nvidia or AMD will do for video card.

Hopefully you'll also install your programs on the faster Windows boot drive (SSD). Works better, faster access time, eliminates unnecessary extra writes to TEMP folders, etc. Any games can be installed to the larger slower drive.

You haven't mentioned what the PC will be used for.
 
4K8KW10 said:
I don't see where exactly the fun is :confused: :eek:
Even for that budget, you are giving solutions of lesser sense.
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indeed, £105 can make a lo of difference - but will either quote with or without windows- might mention can get it cheaper but will not go into the details of it :)
nice to keep it legal and never know who looks at your posts :D Mods normally good to crack down on things like that or get user to post less direct

4K8KW10 said:
Ryzen's Infinity Fabric works at half of the frequency of the memory modules! Why do you give him crappy slow 3000 MHz modules? Why do you give him a Gigabyte motherboard, when Asrock completely trashes it. Has two M.2 slots for future upgradability!
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You need to view PCIe lanes and where they go to on the board- Normally its the bottom PCIe 16 slot running at x4 mode- indeed having to use an adapter board can be a pain and extra cost to instead of just an m.2 on the board- you'll also have to factor in if the board disables any sata ports due to a second m.2 being installed .
The more expensive the board is- the better the company and payed the connections/routing etc etc

as for ram, as mention in lovely ryzen and ram section and to the OP- 3000-3200 is the sweet spot- some boards still struggle to manage 2600hz! or run plug and play at their timings and voltages stated - just quote the ram that works well with most boards and a board that works 9/10 - other one is strix. just from using myself but also from others input . ASRock Taichi is the board I believe that will hit 3600hz first in the future, just a lot of money .
have mentioned when rendering for days on end, faster then 3200 ram can help shave a few hours of days of rendering - wont help you get Winner Winner Chicken Dinner

* having a 144hz monitor already will sure free up a large chunk of budget for yourself :)
 
The Gigabyte board has better audio and three years warranty compared to the ASRock's two. Also the second M.2 slot on the ASRock is only SATA speed. So if you have room in a case for a normal SSD it makes no difference.
 
Philosofried said:
Hello all,

PC packed up last night after 5 years with no upgrades (quite proud of that). I am looking to get a new PC early next month, budget of £1000 can go up to £1200 MAYBE. I would need this PC to last atleast 4 years (will be getting on fiance, not flushed with cash). Can anyone help please or at least advise please?
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Can I ask what happened to your PC, is it dead, dead? Or could it be rescued? Can you tell us the specification of the computer that died, and what you were using it for.

No point in any one recommending you anything at all, until we understand the use case. Also if you are being forced to put a new PC on finance just to get it, then I would be looking at the fixing route of the old one if at all possible (I've never know a computer that can't be repaired, other than a lightning strike damaged one) :)
 
Ok sorry this will be a gaming PC, pretty much purely gaming. I have a 60hz monitor, sorry not 144hz.


My old PC build is as follows - Corsair Vengeance PC3-12800 1600MHz (4x 4GB), Corsair 750W single rail, max current 60A, Gigabyte Z68MX-UD2H motherboard, Intel Core i7 2700K SandyBridge Quad Core 3.5GHz, Cryo Boost to 4.6GHz+, Lian Li PC-V351 small form factor case, nVidia GTX 580, 1536MB (single card). I know i could just update my current PC but after 5 years i thought id just invest in a new one.
 
Philosofried said:
Ok sorry this will be a gaming PC, pretty much purely gaming. I have a 60hz monitor, sorry not 144hz.


My old PC build is as follows - Corsair Vengeance PC3-12800 1600MHz (4x 4GB), Corsair 750W single rail, max current 60A, Gigabyte Z68MX-UD2H motherboard, Intel Core i7 2700K SandyBridge Quad Core 3.5GHz, Cryo Boost to 4.6GHz+, Lian Li PC-V351 small form factor case, nVidia GTX 580, 1536MB (single card). I know i could just update my current PC but after 5 years i thought id just invest in a new one.
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Well you are not going to see a huge performance increase as what you have is still great, if it is not completely dead.

Change your graphics card and you are good to go for another 18-24 months. :)
 
to think this PC was built and delivered January 2012.... I dont think the PC is dead, the graphics is what packed up last night. What i might do then is upgrade graphics, new case (hate my small case now) maybe replace some fans. I have been getting SATA errors a lot recently also
 
Philosofried said:
to think this PC was built and delivered January 2012.... I dont think the PC is dead, the graphics is what packed up last night. What i might do then is upgrade graphics, new case (hate my small case now) maybe replace some fans. I have been getting SATA errors a lot recently also
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Sounds like a plan. I'd also add an SSD if you don't already have one. Do a fresh Windows install on it. Then see if the other existing drive keeps throwing up errors or not.
 
Philosofried said:
SSD packed up years ago, running off main HD. Sweet, GPU, fans, case and SSD. Any recommendations on GPU then?
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I personally would try and see if you can eek it out with your onboard GPU for two weeks, then get the GTX 1070 Ti, cheaper than a GTX 1080 and will be nearly as fast.

Also, I concur with the getting a nice new SSD, and a lovely clean install of Windows 10, the new Fall update is out this week I believe, it'll be like a whole new system. :)
 
^^^^ 1070 Ti will be in shops 1 week after paper launch - do a bit of digging and you'll find that out :)
be quick though- in theory it will make a beast of a mining card - 1080 cuda count and standard GGDR5 , think after Vega wasn't as good for mining as the 1070, miners will seek this card out after a few try it .

cases- thats personal opinion- have a look at the build log and case section of the forum to see some user built systems .

if you've got the case for some serious fan , Silent Wing 3s :D
 
1070Ti if you're willing to fork out £350-450, that is. :)

Do you know which CPU cooler you're using? As that could also be a nice addition if needed, seeing as you mentioned more fans. The actual CPU cooler will affect temps more than case fans.
 
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