British Jihadis Should Be Killed Says Rory Stewart
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Death penalty has extreme costs associated with it compared to keeping them in prison, not to mention it's illegal.
In which case UK should strike up a deal with a middle eastern country (such as Syria or Saudi) to perform the death penalty for them with little cost.
In which case UK should strike up a deal with a middle eastern country (such as Syria or Saudi) to perform the death penalty for them with little cost.
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You want to send them to France?
The lawful execution of lawfully convicted criminals is not murder.
We don't have the death penalty and I very much doubt there is the public or parliamentary appetite for it.
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Regardless of whether you agree with it or not, the execution of captured criminals, is illegal
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I started a not hugely different thread in SC about drone killing the general consensus was people were quite happy with the idea. Ironically it seems I am one of the Daily Mails lefty hand wringing liberals, not how I thought of myself, because I think criminals should be tried not murdered. Much like one of the earlier posters the State shouldn't be murdering people if it doesn't want it's citizens to refrain also.
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That's the western political correctness that will cost a lot of innocence lives.
MP's might have an issue with the idea, but I dont think the general public would...
In any case, what these people have done is far worse than anything "Lord Haw Haw" did and we had no problem hanging him. The starting point for treason should be banishment (IE No return permitted), More serious cases should attract more severe penalties....
You appear to have dropped your club.
But if they are fighting against us in Syria they are enemy combatants, not criminals. We can't just send in troops to bring them back alive, we would lose a lot of soldiers and that isn't worth the life of some ISIS fanatic.
The idea of arresting them and trying them, whilst a good idea, is not usually practical or possible. We couldn't just stroll over there and detain them. We could just wait for them to come back to the UK and arrest them. However, what if them going out there is to train, recruit and plot for attacks on western cities? Do we not execute them before they do that? Do we just try and be noble and wait till they come home so we can give them a slap on the wrists for being naughty little boys?
I think some of us misunderstand the situation.
I think some of us misunderstand the situation.
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plus these are people who are fighting to the death, they dont give in and hold up their hands when we show up
people are still trying to turn this into a death penalty topic, which is not what sparked this conversation, it was a reply in an interview to fuss over dropping bombs on enemy fighters in an active combat zone, just because they are of British origin.
He isnt talking about ISIS fighters who try to return home, there is a clear legal process for that already
No issue blowing them to bits in a combat zone, which is still probably more merciful than the death they give most of their victims. However as much as one would wish to summarily march them straight to the gallows or firing wall on entering the country at Dover or Gatwick, not going to happen - even when if/we leave the EU. There needs to be due process followed by the justice allowed in UK law, if found guilty.
Any extra judicial death penalty needs to be carried out before they leave the insurgent/combat zone.
Any extra judicial death penalty needs to be carried out before they leave the insurgent/combat zone.