1800x Vs 1900x

[DaYteX]

So other than a much bigger price tag is there any difference between the 1800x and the 1900x?
Is the 1900x just a waste of money?
Im looking at getting 8700k but the drop in threadripper prices is changing my mind a little

 

[gavinh87]

So other than a much bigger price tag is there any difference between the 1800x and the 1900x?
Is the 1900x just a waste of money?
Im looking at getting 8700k but the drop in threadripper prices is changing my mind a little

1900x can do quad channel memory, other than that they are much the same.

 

[Scougar]

1900x can do quad channel memory, other than that they are much the same.

Let's not forget the PCI-E lanes... better RAID etc...

 

[Aretak]

The biggest issue with Threadripper is the price of the motherboards. There's only one sub-£300 board on the market, and if you don't fancy that one you're looking at closer to £350 for an alternative.

 

[BongoHunter]

1900x is definitely higher end

Fastest clocking TR processor, quad channel memory, 64 PCIE lanes, you can go over 64gb RAM, NVME Raid, much more capable motherboards etc.

If your just gaming, probably not worth it over regular Ryzen or Intel, but if your doing a lot of creative or virtualisation work - then it's worth considering.

 

[Panos]

So other than a much bigger price tag is there any difference between the 1800x and the 1900x?
Is the 1900x just a waste of money?
Im looking at getting 8700k but the drop in threadripper prices is changing my mind a little

Given the price, for gaming only, aint worth. For everything else including quad channel ram, NVME raids, productive work
And yes is capable on playing games.

 

[pandem0nium]

Xfr affects four cores on the 1900x Vs just two on the 1800x.

 

[Scougar]

If you are primary gaming and lesser tasks I would.say 1700 or 1800x.

If you need the features of x399 platform then consider TR, but I think you would also be limited with only 8 cores if that were the case.

 

[Panos]

Xfr affects four cores on the 1900x Vs just two on the 1800x.

Actually depends. My 1800X was boosting 7 out of the 8 cores to 4.1Ghz on stock settings.

 

[pandem0nium]

Actually depends. My 1800X was boosting 7 out of the 8 cores to 4.1Ghz on stock settings.

I think you're mistaken tbh, unless there's something else going on like mce.

 

[sandys]

Mainly a gamer, I bought one as its a good platform, Ryzen 7 and Intel mainstream are quite limited due to lack of IO, I already had a maxed out z77, the new platforms offered nothing more, Intels HEDT was too pricey, 1900X was all I needed to get on a decent platform with scope to grow further.

A z270 supercarrier and an i7 would have been a reasonable alternative for gaming to get more lanes via PLX, I was considering it but Intel released new stuff, basically obsoleting the old stuff, seeing as support for my old board pretty much died with release of new CPU it put me off, CPU not so critical for me, game at 4k, it's all about GPUs, much rather have a system that can take what ever I throw in it. 1900x is the quickest Ryzen if you don't need a stack of threads, highest base clocks, so all core 3.9Ghz with boost and then XFR up to 4.2 with lighter loads.

If you are never going to have more than one NVMe drive and 1 GPU, the 8700 is probably the place to go, though I'd still be tempted to go 7700k, its cheaper, has good motherboards like the gaming 9 + supercarrier with PLX/PEX chip allowing a bit more expandability. These will no doubt surface on z370, but its a bit new and hardly exists so probably won't happen until early next year.

 

[Panos]

I think you're mistaken tbh, unless there's something else going on like mce.

I am not mistaken
CH6 with 1701 was XFR boosting 7 cores. 1501 was boosting 6 cores. 9920 was boosting 2 cores.

 

[DragonQ]

7 cores? How can it possibly boost a core without boosting its SMT cousin? Can't be right.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

7 cores? How can it possibly boost a core without boosting its SMT cousin? Can't be right.

Because its Ryzen 7 and 7 is lucky??
Gets coat\.

 

[Panos]

7 cores? How can it possibly boost a core without boosting its SMT cousin? Can't be right.

On the OCNET CH6 discussion I have posted quite a few pictures from the HWInfo, when I was experimenting with different BIOS trying to tame the SOC.
The HWInfo only reports cores not threads and Clearly what I wrote above with different versions of BIOS applying the XFR differently can be seen.


FYI what resolved my SOC power issue, that couldn't be tamed by the CH6 manual settings, was to drain the capacitors and remove the battery for 5 minutes.

 

[Panos]

7 cores? How can it possibly boost a core without boosting its SMT cousin? Can't be right.

HWInfo reports cores not threads.

 

[sandys]

HWinfo update rate might make it seem like 7 were running but the switching happens so dynamically it was probably just 4 different ones.