Looking to build second gaming PC

[AshB1989]

Hi,

A few years ago you guys helped me build a computer for general day to day use. I'm now looking to build a game specifically for gaming, Rust in particular. I'm currently getting around 25fps, which is woeful.

Looking to spend around £1,000 on a build - excluding mouse, keyboard and monitor.

Preference would be at least 16gb ram, SSD, Nvidia gfx that's capable of dual screen, i7 (if possible) and a number of fans to keep it cool.

Any help would be much appreciated.

 

[southernorth]

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Asus GeForce GTX 1070 Dual OC 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £379.99
• 1 x Seasonic Focus Plus 550W 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply= £84.95
• 1 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £179.99
• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P400S Midi Tower Case - Noise Dampened Gun Metal= £59.99
• 1 x Asus ROG Strix B350-F & AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600 CPU & Motherboard Bundle **£20 Discount**= £267.94
• 1 x WD Green 240GB 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive (WDS240G1G0A)= £79.99

Total: £1,052.85
(includes shipping: £0.00)



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With that Asus motherboard + Ryzen CPU bundle you get 2 free games

https://promotion.asus.com/en/uk/Ryzen



I would recommend a Coffee-Lake bundle instead of this, but stock shortages have lead to price-gouging which means it's too expensive.

 

[TallPaul1878]

Every time!!!!!

 

[TallPaul1878]

The new Coffee Lake processors are 6 core parts. The new i5 is comparable with the previous gen i7 and performs pretty much neck and neck. I'd definitely recommend the i5 8400 for a gaming build and use the money saved for a better graphics card.

You always want to get the best graphics card you can afford and build a system around that with parts that compliment it.

 

[southernorth]

If you really wanted Intel (and within budget):

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Seasonic Focus Plus 550W 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply= £84.95
• 1 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £179.99
• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P400S Midi Tower Case - Noise Dampened Gun Metal= £59.99
• 1 x WD Green 240GB 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive (WDS240G1G0A)= £79.99
• 1 x PowerColor Radeon RX 580 Red Devil 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £259.99
• 1 x Intel Core i5-8400 2.8GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - OEM= £218.99
• 1 x Asrock Z370 Pro4 Intel Z370 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £109.99

Total: £1,007.09
(includes shipping: £13.20)



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If you waited until January, then the Intel CPU + motherboard bundle would cost around £50 less.

Also, the RX 580 is quite a bit slower than the GTX 1070. You would be at ~£1130 if you got a 1070 instead.​

 

[AshB1989]

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Asus GeForce GTX 1070 Dual OC 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £379.99
• 1 x Seasonic Focus Plus 550W 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply= £84.95
• 1 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £179.99
• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P400S Midi Tower Case - Noise Dampened Gun Metal= £59.99
• 1 x Asus ROG Strix B350-F & AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600 CPU & Motherboard Bundle **£20 Discount**= £267.94
• 1 x WD Green 240GB 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive (WDS240G1G0A)= £79.99

Total: £1,052.85
(includes shipping: £0.00)



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With that Asus motherboard + Ryzen CPU bundle you get 2 free games

https://promotion.asus.com/en/uk/Ryzen



I would recommend a Coffee-Lake bundle instead of this, but stock shortages have lead to price-gouging which means it's too expensive.

I think I prefer this one. Can anybody else better this?

 

[southernorth]

I think I prefer this one. Can anybody else better this?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £179.99
• 1 x Asus ROG Strix B350-F & AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600 CPU & Motherboard Bundle **£20 Discount**= £267.94
• 1 x PowerColor Radeon RX VEGA 56 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card - STAND ALONE= £389.99
• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P400S Midi Tower Case - Noise Dampened Gun Metal= £59.99
• 1 x WD Green 240GB 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive (WDS240G1G0A)= £79.99
• 1 x Seasonic Focus Plus 550W 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply= £84.95

Total: £1,076.05
(includes shipping: £13.20)



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You could also replace that Western Digital SSD with a Samsung 250GB EVO 850 (for ~£85) as you get a free copy of Assasins Creed: Origins. Either keep or sell the game for ~£30.​

Unfortunately Overclockers aren't participating in this promotion (http://www.samsung.com/uk/offer/assassinscreedorigin/) so you'll have to look elsewhere.



The VEGA 56 is definitely worth the £10 extra over the GTX 1070 for performance in most games. Just be aware that due to the cooler design of that card, it will run hot and loud.

 

[AshB1989]

Think I'd prefer Nvidia, bud.

 

[mistersprinkles]

Think I'd prefer Nvidia, bud.

The ryzen/1070 build that was speccd would serve you well. Not a bad idea to add a 1 or 2TB hard drive for game installs. They are yuge these days and that ssd will fill up fast.

 

[AshB1989]

Yeah I agree. How would the affect the boot-up time? Would the SSD fire up the OS then the HDD catch up without too much disruption?

 

[orbitalwalsh]

The ryzen/1070 build that was speccd would serve you well. Not a bad idea to add a 1 or 2TB hard drive for game installs. They are yuge these days and that ssd will fill up fast.

Some are hitting 70GB

 

[StarShock]

What's your current spec? You might be able to get away with a graphics card and RAM upgrade and maybe throw some money at a shiny new monitor.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

I'm rocking slightly over but 1070 Ti and Ryzen 1400 4 core/8 threads

Drugs kicking in so haven't got the meal to do Intel version
1440p due to weaker core though
My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard= £87.95
• 1 x Hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (HFS250G32TND-N1A0A)= £79.99
• 1 x Toshiba P300 1TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache High Performance Hard Drive (HDWD110UZSVA)= £37.99
• 1 x Team Group Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - RGB Black (TF1D4= £158.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Quad Core 1400 3.40GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £139.99
• 1 x Corsair CX550 550W 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply (CP-9020121-UK)= £57.95
• 1 x Zotac GeForce GTX 1070Ti Mini 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (ZT-P10710G-10P)= £439.99
• 2 x Aerocool QS-240 Micro-ATX Case - Black= £29.99

Total: £1,075.43
(includes shipping: £12.60)




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[AshB1989]

What's your current spec? You might be able to get away with a graphics card and RAM upgrade and maybe throw some money at a shiny new monitor.

Mrs is having current comp, bud.

Are AMD better than Intel?

 

[southernorth]

Mrs is having current comp, bud.

Are AMD better than Intel?

The Ryzen 1600, particularly at the moment, is a great CPU for price/performance. It performs similarly to the i5-8400, but costs almost £50 less. It also comes with 3 free games if you buy certain ASUS motherboards.

At the top end, the best Intel CPU (i7 8700k) is often much better than the top AMD CPU for gaming. For multi-tasking and productivity it isn't quite so clear-cut though.

 

[AshB1989]

What sort of money would I be looking at for an i7?

 

[southernorth]

What sort of money would I be looking at for an i7?

£390+

When stock becomes more plentiful by the end of the year, prices should get to £350

 

[AshB1989]

Hmmmm would the extra £350 make a huge improvement ?

 

[AshB1989]

Any deals which effect this spec?
Edit: Ignore that - just purchased. Ended upgrading the processor to
AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600X 4.00GHz (Socket AM4) Processor which was an extra 10/20 give or take.

EDIT: This doesn't come with a cooler - DOH!! Any cooler recommendations?
Thank you for your help

 

[southernorth]

Any deals which effect this spec?
Edit: Ignore that - just purchased. Ended upgrading the processor to
AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600X 4.00GHz (Socket AM4) Processor which was an extra 10/20 give or take.

EDIT: This doesn't come with a cooler - DOH!! Any cooler recommendations?
Thank you for your help

For a bit of overclocking:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Alpenfohn Ben Nevis Advanced CPU Cooler - 130mm= £25.99

Total: £34.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)
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Says it comes with an AM4 mount. Would spend more if you were doing heavy overclocking. I don't know which case you settled on, so would need to ensure it fits.