Good modem for Gaming in a busy household.

kieran_read · 6 Nov 2017 at 20:14

As it states really.

Basically in shared accommodation, so going to buy my own modem.

Going to be upgrading to Fibre with UtilityWarehouse. Will be getting the 80 down 20up package (assuming we get that)

Basically they only give out crappy Technicolor Modems, so want to get my own decent one. There will be 5 of us in the house, most of them will be using Netflix and stream etc, but as someone who games i'd be looking for a decent modem that will have some decent QOS so I can keep my ping nice and low.

Anyone have any recommendations?

I don't want to spend loads of money but i'm more than happy to splash out if needed.

neodude · 6 Nov 2017 at 20:29

I'll go first with obligatory PfSense box and Ubiquiti AP suggestion. I would never go back to an all in one.

kieran_read · 6 Nov 2017 at 20:57

Eh What does that even mean lol...and how does it work?

Quartz · 6 Nov 2017 at 21:54

Take a look at the Draytek routers. You'll want VLAN support for privacy - you don't see each other's devices. You can set up guest wifi. And you get QoS so that no one person or application hogs the bandwidth

ChrisD. · 7 Nov 2017 at 09:48

Draytek are pants. I don't know why so many people rate them so much. I've had countless issues with work clients with them and the one I bought for home lasted a week.

Quartz · 7 Nov 2017 at 10:30

My 2860 works just fine, and the 2860 I bought from another OCUKer solved all my brother's network woes.

pcfarrar · 7 Nov 2017 at 14:43

ChrisD. said:
Draytek are pants. I don't know why so many people rate them so much. I've had countless issues with work clients with them and the one I bought for home lasted a week.

I have loads of Draytek 2860's deployed at work on BT Business infinity connections. Never had a single problem with any of them.

ChrisD. · 7 Nov 2017 at 14:49

pcfarrar said:
I have loads of Draytek 2860's deployed at work on BT Business infinity connections. Never had a single problem with any of them.

I'm glad you've had no issues. One particular client I'm working for (also BT Infinity Business) has had multiple issues and has asked me to spec up a suitable alternate (going for Meraki). I myself had issues with one at home.

pfSense or similar with decent access points is far superior.

I dislike how they use their own terms for networking technologies that just don't match up with the real world.

skyripper · 7 Nov 2017 at 15:13

Eh What does that even mean lol...and how does it work?

You're asking for a ADSL/VDSL modem. pfSense while great, won't solve that.

I'm using a BT Huawei HG612 (I think) as a modem (about £20 on ebay).
That is running unlocked firmware, and connected to a box running pfSense.
pfSense is open source, free firewall/router which you need commodity hardware to run (spare PC with 2 network ports for example).

Ubiquiti make well respected Wifi kit. (I don't have any Ubiquiti kit).

You don't need VLAN if you're living with a bunch of adults. If you're living with a bunch of tards, however, it might help to separate out everybody into mini networks.

bledd · 7 Nov 2017 at 15:45

FYI, it's called a router unless it's strictly a modem

VDSL router is what you're after (assuming it's FTTC).

kieran_read · 7 Nov 2017 at 19:43

bledd said:
FYI, it's called a router unless it's strictly a modem

VDSL router is what you're after (assuming it's FTTC).

I was just looking at various Asus, Linkseys, TP-Link, Netgear routers

etc.

Just need something that wiill allow me to play games with no latency while 5 others are streaming netflix nd going other things.
It will be FTTC I wish it was to the house lol.

Rroff · 7 Nov 2017 at 19:53

Just setting upstream QoS so that nothing can use more than 90% bandwidth makes a huge difference for gaming if you have other busy users.

If it is streaming, etc. then you won't need anything more than that to keep gaming performance OK on a decent speed FTTC connection - if people are using torrents, etc. though you may find nothing short of enterprise level hardware will prevent it having a noticeable impact on gaming.

Vince · 7 Nov 2017 at 20:06

If it was me I would leave the standard openreach modem and put something like a fortigate 30e in front of it then you have all the control you will ever need, pretty much for the reasons stated above by Rroff.

kieran_read · 7 Nov 2017 at 20:56

Rroff said:
Just setting upstream QoS so that nothing can use more than 90% bandwidth makes a huge difference for gaming if you have other busy users.

If it is streaming, etc. then you won't need anything more than that to keep gaming performance OK on a decent speed FTTC connection - if people are using torrents, etc. though you may find nothing short of enterprise level hardware will prevent it having a noticeable impact on gaming.

I'm not too worried about Download, as I know gaming only uses like 512kb at best, it's the stability I need, I guess with 40down min and 78 expected I am over thinking it, UP my housemates will use skype at best they wont be uploading nout but it's something ill do.

Vince said:
If it was me I would leave the standard openreach modem and put something like a fortigate 30e in front of it then you have all the control you will ever need, pretty much for the reasons stated above by Rroff.

I'm garbage at networking, computerparts building one easy but network meh, I just want something I can plug and play and have no issue with, the default routers with technicolor are laughable.

Rroff · 7 Nov 2017 at 21:06

kieran_read said:
UP my housemates will use skype at best they wont be uploading nout but it's something ill do.

Even small spikes of high upload can be very noticeable - some applications work in bursts even though they might average only a few kbyte/s it can be all in one quick lump which will have a noticeable, even if momentary, impact on gaming - never mind if someone is uploading to youtube or something.

kieran_read · 7 Nov 2017 at 23:30

Rroff said:
Even small spikes of high upload can be very noticeable - some applications work in bursts even though they might average only a few kbyte/s it can be all in one quick lump which will have a noticeable, even if momentary, impact on gaming - never mind if someone is uploading to youtube or something.

True I do plan on doing some streaming so i'm more likely to do harm to myself than they are to me lol.