Dishwasher real world costs

[ttaskmaster]

At least I’m not the only one that this happens to. That pain as you have to force yourself upright again.

Friend of mine suffers from a similar problem, but if he's bent over too long something goes into reverse when he tries to stand upright... and he headbutts the worktop!!
It's sad and amusing at the same time!!

But then I’m one of those sickos that uses the same spoon to stir both the spaghetti and bolognese sauce!

OMG, that's the sort of thing Kevin Spacey would do!!
Seriously, I wonder how all the forum clean freaks would cope with something so simple as camping...

they commented yesterday @R4 that most millenials/Xfactors cannot wire a plug / bleed a radiator / turn off house stop-****.

I'd laugh, but even my own Mrs didn't know how to wire a plug. She could probably have worked it out if they included that bit of paper with the diagram on it, at least...

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

I'd laugh, but even my own Mrs didn't know how to wire a plug. She could probably have worked it out if they included that bit of paper with the diagram on it, at least...

Wire a plug, I mean how many do you actually need to do now. I can think of 1 I have done in 10 years
Bleed radiator, most you can do with a screwdriver now

Turning off the house stop **** however is far trickier, always simple in theory, ******* difficult in practice, almost always seized to hell.

Its funny because people love to mock millenials, they are probably the self same people that have to be protected from difficult things like not clicking the handy link from their bank in the email that says they need to reset their password and confidential information, or someone has to break the bad news to them that the £10k they transferred to help release their £100M from Nigeria has gone missing

 

[Steedie]

Our dishwasher gets used daily.

When renting, I lived in several houses with them but never used them as I thought they were a waste of time, then when I bought my own house, it came with one as part of being a new build, and now we use it daily.

I love it mainly for its convenience, but also the fact that you can just load it up over the course of a day, and you haven't got a sink full of washing up or on the side, it's out of sight. Not to mention if you get decent tabs/maintain it, the clean is far superior to hand washing, especially when it comes to glass

 

[Skillmister]

There is also a zen aspect to doing the work and doing it well, stacking dishes expertly on the drainer and tidying away afterwards.

This, it's almost meditation. Plus as the old saying goes, if you can't wash the dishes right how can you run a Fortune 500 company right

Washing up during meal preparation minimises it at the end.

And this, normally after a meal the only things I've got to wash up are the dishes/pans food is served/cooked in and the dishes it was eaten in.

Then again if I had a family of 4 I'd probably think differently

Turning off the house stop **** however is far trickier, always simple in theory, ******* difficult in practice, almost always seized to hell.

Morrisons Utilities had to break out the hammer and chisel to get to mine yesterday to survey for a meter. Wouldn't have done me much good in a pinch!

 

[ttaskmaster]

Wire a plug, I mean how many do you actually need to do now. I can think of 1 I have done in 10 years

Well, when millenials sever the power leads on their appliances and garden tools, or simply needs to make up an extension cable, someone has to teach them the Old Ways... I've probably done a good dozen for other people this year alone.

Bleed radiator, most you can do with a screwdriver now

I always used to use my drum keys!

normally after a meal the only things I've got to wash up are the dishes/pans food is served/cooked in and the dishes it was eaten in.

That's pretty much all I ever have, though - What else do you use that needs washing mid-cook?

 

[cheesyboy]

That's pretty much all I ever have, though - What else do you use that needs washing mid-cook?

Your hands.

And a dishwasher can't do those, can it.

 

[Skillmister]

That's pretty much all I ever have, though - What else do you use that needs washing mid-cook?

Varies but chopping boards, knives, peelers, blender/processor, tins & packets, worktops... Sure they don't take long but why not do them while I'm not doing anything else.

Not doing much extravagant cooking at the moment as I don't have time but its a bit of a hobby for me so I like to use all the pans and make a mess

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Well, when millenials sever the power leads on their appliances and garden tools, or simply needs to make up an extension cable, someone has to teach them the Old Ways... I've probably done a good dozen for other people this year alone.

What I don't get is though, compared to when I was a "youngster" wiring plugs onto things, it takes 30 seconds to google "how to wire a plug" and get a demo and advice

So yes years ago "dont know how to wire a plug" was some sort of "valid" put down, today I just don't believe it
I would say its many times more difficult to actually buy a plug than wire it. Years ago every store that sold electrical appliances would also sell you a plug

Those same days, just about every one of these uber plug wirers used to just leave the 13amp fuse in as well

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Varies but chopping boards, knives, peelers, blender/processor, tins & packets, worktops... Sure they don't take long but why not do them while I'm not doing anything else.

Not doing much extravagant cooking at the moment as I don't have time but its a bit of a hobby for me so I like to use all the pans and make a mess

Its not a one thing or the other. Those with dishwashers are allowed to still use a sink, at least a don't remember signing anything that prohibits me using a sink should I choose

Reality is when we go cooking crazy we wash some stuff as well, but on a weeknight with a pan or 2, an oven tray or 2, a few cups/mugs plates forks spoons etc, it takes about 2 minutes to load the washer and either walk away if its still less than half full, or throw a tablet in and press start

 

[ttaskmaster]

Your hands.

Ah that's "hand-washing", though, not "washing up" - You have hand soap and you have washing up liquid. Only time the latter should be used for hand-washing is when mixed with sugar because you've run out of orange Swarfega!

And a dishwasher can't do those, can it.

Challenge accepted..... and well-volunteered. Gimme your hands, CheesyBoy!!

Varies but chopping boards, knives, peelers, blender/processor, tins & packets, worktops... Sure they don't take long but why not do them while I'm not doing anything else.

If I'm not doing something, then I'm not cooking properly.... unless it's a South African recipe, which usually requires long periods in the oven.
But anything else, I find it a far more efficient way of working to just do it all at the one time and 'production-line' everything. Also easier to justify fobbing the clean-up onto whoever just enjoyed the lovely meal you slaved over!

Not doing much extravagant cooking at the moment as I don't have time but its a bit of a hobby for me so I like to use all the pans and make a mess

Oh, you're one of those...... Yeah, well, if you wanna follow my wife's approach to cooking, then you can damn well do your own washing up!

What I don't get is though, compared to when I was a "youngster" wiring plugs onto things, it takes 30 seconds to google "how to wire a plug" and get a demo and advice

Same for changing car wiper blades, but I know people who will drive 45 miles and pay £20 just to have someone else do the fitting for them...

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Same for changing car wiper blades, but I know people who will drive 45 miles and pay £20 just to have someone else do the fitting for them...

IMO fitting wiper blades is 10x more difficult than wiring a plug.
Well maybe I should refine that, its 10x more difficult to do it so they work even close to acceptably

 

[Glaucus]

ah the retarded millennial put downs that make no sense.
you never wire a plug these days and on the off chance you do, you can easily look it up. there is no need to memorise skills like that these days.

agreed dishwashers can be far more economical, 6 litres is nothing compared to hand washing. they also clean far better. Doesn't matter how much soap you use you can tell the difference between hand and dishwasher, dishwasher removes all oils making it feel dry. As well as the out of sight out of mine.
and the oh it's disgusting leaving it a few days in a dishwasher, the vast majority of people who wash up by hand leave a stack by the sink for a few days and do it in bulk.

 

[Psycho Sonny]

people use them about twice a week? so you leave dirty dishes sat in there for 3 or 4 days?

there is a 5 minute wet/soak cycle you can use on mine which is basically like rinsing them under a tap albeit it uses insignificant amounts of water in comparison. i've used it a couple of times on exceptionally dirty dishes i knew were going to be sitting in there for a couple of days. plus it helps soften the muck for the proper wash.

also practically all restaurants use a dishwasher for glasses and even dishes too in a lot of cases. so i don't see why you are so against the use of one. it's many times faster than hand washing and many times cleaner too as well as many times more efficient.

 

[ttaskmaster]

IMO fitting wiper blades is 10x more difficult than wiring a plug.
Well maybe I should refine that, its 10x more difficult to do it so they work even close to acceptably

Only if you buy the cheap wipers...

ah the retarded millennial put downs that make no sense.
you never wire a plug these days and on the off chance you do, you can easily look it up. there is no need to memorise skills like that these days.

Yup... and there are people who make a living from fixing the mistakes made by those clueless millenials who merely looked things up without having the background skills and knowledge that used to be part of basic school lessons.

 

[hornetstinger]

You mean you just don't buy a new 75" OLED TV when the fuse in the plug blows?

 

[Usher]

Much is made about how much water they use but what about electric, our recently bought Zanussi uses very little water as it recirculates it several times.
Unlike our old noisy one this is almost silent but it runs for 2.5 hours and must keep heating the water back up so I've no idea how much electric it uses as we are due a bill soon

 

[Psycho Sonny]

Much is made about how much water they use but what about electric, our recently bought Zanussi uses very little water as it recirculates it several times.
Unlike our old noisy one this is almost silent but it runs for 2.5 hours and must keep heating the water back up so I've no idea how much electric it uses as we are due a bill soon

Have you been living in a cave for the past 15 years?

EU has pushed energy saving legislation on us year upon year. If your dishwasher is using loads of electricity then it's probably because it's 15+ years old and should have broken by now.

Every year every electrical appliance within the home is pushed to be more efficient.

Central heating pumps from 20 years ago that used 100W today now use less than 15W. light bulbs from 20 years ago that used 100W now use 5W. TV's from 20 years ago that used 2000W now use 50W.

the only things that still consume loads of electricity are heating devices and hot water devices. however cleaning devices have had technology improvements in other areas which means they now don't need to use has much hot water or heat it up as much.

 

[hornetstinger]

2kw for a TV? lol wut?

 

[ttaskmaster]

Much is made about how much water they use but what about electric

The wife insists on us having a dishwasher, but won't let me nudge the storage heater up a single degree because, "It'th Too Exthspenthiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive" [/whiny woman voice].
If she demands something, then you can be sure it uses naff-all electric!!

 

[cheesyboy]

The wife..... won't let me nudge the storage heater up a single degree....

You got yourself a unicorn there son.