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Bah, I can't decide what graphics card to buy. If any.
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I know what you mean. Just a 'bit' more cash could get me the next card up.......
He is right though - that was a performance upgrade you could have done years ago and hence going to be much shorter lived as a move these days - plus a lot of reviews used 800MHz cards while actual owners are likely on 900-1000MHz cards which closes the gap a bit.
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Presumably they're on about what they wrote:
Which is a fair comment:
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1721?vs=1870
And that's the thing I mentioned I'd seen and couldn't find again, so yay! I've bookmarked it this time.
Probably more than that to be honest.
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Unfortunately, for a variety of reasons, PC gaming is expensive these days. Though it really always has been.
Which is why I dont find much value in some new parts and often buy from members market.
Which is why I dont find much value in some new parts and often buy from members market.
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That's a flawed comparison.
A genuine comparison is a 380x to a 580 so they're as close as they can be driver wise. A 380x is just another rebrand of the 7970.
Or if you want a comparison that actually mirrors the OP then the 380 versus 580.
Either way none of that changes the fact that 580 performance is comparable to a 290x and as I said. That upgrade from a 7950 is what we did years ago.
Possibly. I do feel that GPU makers may have shot themselves in the foot with the pricing this generation.
I've no plans to change my display so a 1080 would probably do me fine for years. A 1080ti would be ridiculous overkill.
What are they going to offer with Volta/Navi? I don't want more performance, the performance levels from this generation are just fine. It's the prices that are wrong!
Well typically each generation increases the performance at each tier, so effectively performance trickles down into cheaper cards. Recently that process has been very slow and instead we get minimal improvements at the low and mid end (AMD) and extra tiers at the high end costing even more (nVidia).
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The other factor is the price of memory which is just ridiculous at the moment, the other day I was considering a Ryzen upgrade but when I looked at the ram prices 16Gb of DDR costs around £150 a time!
Exactly the problem. We got very little in the way of an increase in performance/$ this generation.
Sure I can get the performance upgrade...but I have to pay 500+ EUR for it, which is simply too much.
If the Xbox One software library wasn't so pants it would be an very hard to decision to spend 500 EUR on a graphics card instead of an XB1X.
How is that flawed? .... OP has a 7950 which is showing its age .... getting a 580/1060 will give him a nice perf boost
All that waffle and whataboutery in regards to a 290x is pointless ... He doesnt have a 290x
The bench i posted was done with a 7970 vs 580 so he will even get more of a perf gain coming from a 7950 ... at 1080p he will get a good boost, specially with all the mods he is using 3gb mem vs 8 gb
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It's a flawed comparison because using results from 5 years ago isn't reflective of how the cards run today.
If you want to see how a 7950 performs today, you'd look at results of 380s as a 380 is a 7950 rebrand but it'll obviously have up to date drivers.
The results of the 7970 you showed aren't actually as fast as what the OPs 7950 is due to drivers and clocks etc, hence the flaw. The performance difference is NOT the same as the performance difference you're showing because of that flaw.
And a 580 is frankly showing its age. That level of performance for that price point has been that level for about 4 years almost.
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I went from an overclocked 7950 to a 1070 and can say the difference is amazing! First thing I did was fire up GTAV and the difference was jaw dropping. Suddenly I was getting 60fps with settings cranked up all while the card wasn't making any noise and getting insanely hot, my 7950 used to scream with later games. Still loved that card though. Served me so well for so long
Again ... that doesnt apply to the OP .... he doesnt own a 380 or a 290x He owns a 7950 .... Upgrading to a 580 will give him a nice perf boost ...
The continuous Whinging about price/perf doesnt change the fact that the OP needs a card that plays current games at 1080p ... A 580/1060 will suit him nicely
But you can prove me wrong ... show me a bench that is not flawed according to you showing OP's 7950 vs a 580
I upgraded from 7870 to a 6gb 1060 and can now play games like shadow of mordor maxed settings at over 85fps.
The 7870 was getting 25 to 40fps on medium/high settings,my cpu is i7 920 at stock settings.
I would say the Op would be happy with gtx 1060 or rx580 or even rx570 at 1080p.
The 7870 was getting 25 to 40fps on medium/high settings,my cpu is i7 920 at stock settings.
I would say the Op would be happy with gtx 1060 or rx580 or even rx570 at 1080p.
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https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1750?vs=1868
That's the most accurate comparison for the OP. As the OP's 7950 *is* an AMD Radeon 380 (The 380 being a rebrand of the 280, which was a rebrand of the 7950).
I'm not saying it's not an upgrade. But in 2017 it's not an upgrade I'd consider worthwhile, given that 580 performance at its price bracket isn't a new thing. The end point being is that it'll need upgrading much sooner given how stagnant the price/performance tier is.
For the price, there's more value in going for a 1070/V56 (At normal pricing).
For current prices I do agree it's quite expensive now, while the 580 is a good jump, considering it's 290 performance level which was released as the sucessor of the 7000 series, it should be cheaper. Overall high end performance seems to have staled a bit the past few years due to lack of competition from AMD and Nvidia taking it easy.
Came from a 7950 myself which I overclocked like crazy just to keep up with today's games, but the 3GB VRAM really started to bottleneck everything. The 580/1060 will still be a good upgrade, the 1070 being a bit more future proof. I didn't use the 580 myself, but built it for a family member and it does perform almost twice as good as the 7950 on 1080p.
Came from a 7950 myself which I overclocked like crazy just to keep up with today's games, but the 3GB VRAM really started to bottleneck everything. The 580/1060 will still be a good upgrade, the 1070 being a bit more future proof. I didn't use the 580 myself, but built it for a family member and it does perform almost twice as good as the 7950 on 1080p.
Sorry, but, the 380 is not a rebrand of the 280, it's a rebrand of the 285. The 285 is a Tonga chip(basically cut down Hawaii) The 280 is the 7950 rebranded Tahiti chip. So the benchmarks you linked to aren't exactly like for like. There is probably a bigger performance difference between the 7950 and the 580/1060 then your link suggests.