Cool, i'd not heard of them. The RB750Gr3 doesnt look great but a very interesting brand. The RB1100AHx4 looks nice for the money
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Cool, i'd not heard of them. The RB750Gr3 doesnt look great but a very interesting brand. The RB1100AHx4 looks nice for the money
It doesnt look to have enough power, it looks very feature rich (and yes at the price it is amazing), but the overriding thought it that it is an underpowered device for a fast connection.
Great for things like FTTC though, which to be fair is what it was recommended for here.
I think you have to consider everything in context. On paper a Caterham 7 with a 1.6l Ford Pinto engine should be slow as on paper it’s underpowered compared to a 5.0l V8 Mustang. Look deeper and it’s anything but underpowered. Mikrotik RouterOS is extraordinarily efficient and that’s a very snappy router. Don’t forget that it retails at than £30. Compare that to the Unifi Security Gateway at almost £100 and you start to appreciate the value proposition. And if you want the stupidly powerful one, just buy the board for $50 and swap them over in the same case. Give it a year and everyone on here will be suggesting Mikrotik.
It'll route 2Gb if needed and in the correct setup. I appreciate what you mean about specs on paper but honestly if you delve into some of the mikrotik forums and online reviews, they will REALLY change your mind. It'll do 450Mb over IPSEC also. It's highly recommended on here for FTTC connections because of the price point, not because it's "best suited" to FTTC connections.
Mikrotik's are no good if you need to handle full BGP tables, since their implementation only uses a single thread, and the single-core performance of their routers is quite poor. The next big release of RouterOS is meant to resolve this, but it's been "coming soon" for ages now.
Sounds great. I am hopefully getting a fast fttp bearer soon so will be looking at routing options, these will be high up the list failing the ability to scavenge something suitable from one of our DCs
This won't matter to 99% of home users though.
That is true, but it's just important not to get carried away. Mikrotik and Ubiquiti products are both great when used in the correct situations, but they aren't the sort of thing you can just blindly purchase and expect to perform flawlessly. The software QA from Mikrotik especially is quite poor, and Ubiquiti seem to rely on the wider open source community a bit too much in terms of providing bugfixes.
Of course, however there is the more "industrial" element to MikroTik that rarely if ever gets mentioned on here of cloud cores. They aren't mentioned due to pricing as most people are happy to whizz £140 on a wireless AP but not on the router behind it. Granted though once you get to CCR levels you are looking to move Gb levels of traffic but with MikroTik it certainly is you get what you pay for. A £40 router will never replace a £400 router but most users won't use all of the features or get the most out of the additional power of that better product. The 750Gr3 has been a real gem since it's release and that is partly due to the HW offload and the step forward with CPU's. I'm excited to see where the rest of the lineup goes now as the bottom end is snapping at the midrange quite violently.
I can't really comment on UBNT as my experience is only Airrouters (junk) and the USG which I tried and couldn't get set up how I wanted so reverted back to my RB3011.
I will disagree with this though, they used to be quite terrible and didn't release good changelogs. More recent years changelogs are brilliant and as long as you don't venture on to the RC channel you will get a reliable firmware. I run bugfix on every router I have deployed and never have had an issue caused by firmware bugs. Maybe I'm being too cautious but your comment was probably correct a few years ago, certainly not the case now.
I found my ER-L pretty poor. Was very Alpha like, things like setting up incoming NAT and firewall rules seemed overly complex. I think it lasted a month or so before I went pfSense and in all honestly it's in another league in terms of ease of use.
We tried the cheaper stuff and never really got on with it and went back to Juniper - perhaps like you say things improved since then but for obvious reasons we are cautious. For their target market which is operators of WISPs for residential customers though they are most likely spot-on. For a dirt-cheap box for a home user to have a really powerful device to try out a ton of different concepts, again, knock yourself out.
This was exactly my experience. I love my UAPs but couldn't get on with the ER-L. Now you can easily get 6 port mini PCs with AES-NI compatible CPUs it means you can have really sophisticated setup with pfSense for relatively little money. I found setting up a triple WAN environment with lots of policy and time based firewall rules relatively straightforward and I'm not really that proficient with networking.