I7 4770 worth buying?

[DONOHUE07]

i currently have a fx8350 and a gigabyte ud5 motherboard in a ATX case. I would like to move my pc into a mini itx case as I game on my living room TV and my Mrs isn’t too happy with quite a large pc next to the TV (it does stand out to be fair). With Father Christmas coming Im short of loose change, I have been looking for a bargain upgrade and I have stumbled across a 2nd hand i7-4770 (£135) and a new dirt cheap mini itx motherboard (Asrock H81-DGS R2.0) for less than £40.

Do you guys think it’s worth the change? I have been considering moving to Ryzen or the new intel CPU’s, but the cost of DDR4 puts me off.

 

[malachi]

I know the DDR4 prices are bad but I would rather save the extra and go Ryzen especially now with them being so cheap.

This is what I did when going from FX8320 to 1700 a few months back and purchased some 2nd hand DDR4 instead to soften the blow. Worth it!

 

[Deleted member 87287]

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[DONOHUE07]

Clearly as money is a factor here buying DDR4 isn't an option. Prices are 3x what they were in summer 2016. Are there any itx boards for your current CPU? I'd have thought the i7 is a better gaming CPU than a cheap ryzen anyway...

There’s wasn’t many mitx boards made for the AM3+ platform, I would like to bin my cpu off anyway, I plan to save up for a GPU that can handle 4K comfortably next year, as well as handling VR, possibly NVIDIA’s Volta, and the fx8350 would severely bottleneck it. Looking at benchmarks the i7-4770 smashes the fx8350.
I’m just looking for peoples opinions, to say wether it’s a move worth making

 

[Davedree]

Coming from your fx83, you will see a good improvement with a stock 4770. Ryzen is a good CPU but unless you need the multi-threaded performance in games/applications then the 4770 is going to be pretty close to ryzen. For the money I think you should do it as you'd be reusing your ddr4 I take it?

 

[DONOHUE07]

Coming from your fx83, you will see a good improvement with a stock 4770. Ryzen is a good CPU but unless you need the multi-threaded performance in games/applications then the 4770 is going to be pretty close to ryzen. For the money I think you should do it as you'd be reusing your ddr4 I take it?

Reusing my ddr3 yes, I can’t bring myself to spend that kind of money on RAM.

I think my mind is made up, I’ll get the 4770 and cheap motherboard

 

[Danny75]

Give it a couple more weeks, see if you can source a 4790K for the same price. Even if you use a non-overclocking board, that'll still give you 4.4GHz on one core, 4.3 and 4.2 when more are used. Check the Member's Market frequently, the cheapest processors there tend to be ones that some of the staff sell, like 4770K for £100 I've seen a couple of times past few months.

H81 board might need an update for Devil's Canyon but retailer or manufacturer can do that for you if you can't borrow a Haswell chip to do it.

If you were getting an overclocking board then 4770K v 4790K wouldn't matter much at all.

Also heads up on this case:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Kolink Satellite Micro-ATX Cube Case - Black= £26.99

Total: £37.49 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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Which can take plenty if not all of the H81 micro-ATX boards (in case you see a better option than the ITX) in an "ITX-size" case.

 

[P4Clock]

4770 is still a fantastic CPU and can easily play games at 1080/1440,

as you want ITX get a case with CPU power phase cooling are your system with throttle.
i had this problem with a budget H81 board and an i3 in battlefield so an i7 will heat up them phases fast

 

[P4Clock]

Give it a couple more weeks, see if you can source a 4790K for the same price. Even if you use a non-overclocking board, that'll still give you 4.4GHz on one core, 4.3 and 4.2 when more are used. Check the Member's Market frequently, the cheapest processors there tend to be ones that some of the staff sell, like 4770K for £100 I've seen a couple of times past few months.

H81 board might need an update for Devil's Canyon but retailer or manufacturer can do that for you if you can't borrow a Haswell chip to do it.

If you were getting an overclocking board then 4770K v 4790K wouldn't matter much at all.

Also heads up on this case:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Kolink Satellite Micro-ATX Cube Case - Black= £26.99

Total: £37.49 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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Which can take plenty if not all of the H81 micro-ATX boards (in case you see a better option than the ITX) in an "ITX-size" case.

That case will only fit an ITX board. i had one there poo.

it will take an ITX board that as 2 expansion slots, but on them boards the 16x pcie is the seconds slot and because of the ways the case only as 2 slots you can run a GPU.

 

[Danny75]

That case will only fit an ITX board. i had one there poo.

it will take an ITX board that as 2 expansion slots, but on them boards the 16x pcie is the seconds slot and because of the ways the case only as 2 slots you can run a GPU.

Sorry but it will take some micro-ATX boards such as several H81 boards as I mentioned. It will not take ALL micro-ATX boards out there. Just have to check dimensions for each board and compare with the case limitation for motherboard (22.6cm x 18cm). And the 16x PCIe is the top slot on those boards (think Asus H81M-K etc @ 22.6cm x 17.5cm) so you can run a two-slot card.

 

[P4Clock]

yep that board would work fie and with a top down type cooler cooling the cpu/vrm section of the board it would work fine for gaming with a none K chip

 

[Danny75]

yep that board would work fie and with a top down type cooler cooling the cpu/vrm section of the board it would work fine for gaming with a none K chip

Yeah, I mentioned it because I was thinking along the same lines as you = a more cramped (and cheap) ITX board will probably run into issues with i7s sooner than a not-so cramped (albeit still cheap) micro-ATX.

I don't doubt the case itself is not very good. Still, on a tight budget that could be hard to avoid.

 

[DONOHUE07]

Thanks for the recommendations guys

 

[roadwish]

"How to waste money 1.0 " thread , swapping overclockable cpu for a stock 1 from the same age and a bunch of lamers with a "helping hand" . Proper advice should be, new case+board (+maybe improve cooling solution) ; OC and save for new tech.

 

[~>Dg<~]

i have built a 4770k pc for my kids this week to play games on.pretty decent still.

 

[DarrenM343]

"How to waste money 1.0 " thread , swapping overclockable cpu for a stock 1 from the same age and a bunch of lamers with a "helping hand" . Proper advice should be, new case+board (+maybe improve cooling solution) ; OC and save for new tech.

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I don't disagree with you but just depends on budget and what people want from a system (ie, upgrade or second cheap system or just fancy tinkering with something else).
Reminds me of the other thread recently about selling a 2500K for £50 and buying a 2600K for £100. To me that seemed crazy too for a few reasons including the risk of buying such an old chip for twice the money with an unknown history (could fail any time).
If people only have one system and looking for an upgrade my advice would be to just hold out and continue saving until they have the money for a really good upgrade, rather than doing a side grade, and ideally new with all new components. You can currently get 8 cores for £229.99, 6 for £188.99 - all brand new stuff, not old tat . The latter especially makes many old 4 core CPU's look expensive used.

 

[malachi]

"How to waste money 1.0 " thread , swapping overclockable cpu for a stock 1 from the same age and a bunch of lamers with a "helping hand" . Proper advice should be, new case+board (+maybe improve cooling solution) ; OC and save for new tech.

They did say getting an mitx board for AM3+ is a problem. In general they wasn't made in large numbers in the first place so looking for one now would be a nightmare without a high price tag.

 

[Deleted member 87287]

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[roadwish]

I gave the advice of a new board on the 2nd reply OP said itx boards are hard to find. Since you called us lamers, I’ll call you a fool. Would choose something stronger but I’d get banned.

First search and I can see 55£ board on rainforest competitor.
But you lot just encouraged bloke on a super tight budget (moaning misus etc) spend dosh on a cpu that he doesn't need, the one he can't OC and defly will be slower than his fx ( if OCed ). Only excuse for that would be if he would say that he uses a lot of some single threaded app and cpu needs to be run at stock (for some reason) , but is clearly not the case. And iirc we are on the OVERCLOCKERS.co.uk forum , not some Tom's shiteware lamers heaven and should encourage ppl to play in bios OCing etc and not spend some serious dosh on outdated,stock cpu , cause you either stuck in 2013 or just batting for a blue team (or both). So you sir, should be ashamed not offended by L world

 

[Danny75]

First search and I can see 55£ board on rainforest competitor.

What's the name of the motherboard?

But you lot just encouraged bloke on a super tight budget (moaning misus etc) spend dosh on a cpu that he doesn't need, the one he can't OC and defly will be slower than his fx ( if OCed ). Only excuse for that would be if he would say that he uses a lot of some single threaded app and cpu needs to be run at stock (for some reason) , but is clearly not the case. And iirc we are on the OVERCLOCKERS.co.uk forum , not some Tom's shiteware lamers heaven and should encourage ppl to play in bios OCing etc and not spend some serious dosh on outdated,stock cpu , cause you either stuck in 2013 or just batting for a blue team (or both). So you sir, should be ashamed not offended by L world

You do realize that advising anyone to stick an FX 8-core on an AM3+ micro-ATX board (they suck and should only be used with 4 core, or 6 core at most and overclocking not advisable) is already a bad enough idea, let alone a cheap AM3+ ITX board? And then you want him to overclock on that motherboard and watch the VRMs melt before his eyes. And for what? To get about zero gain compared to an i7-4770/4790/K even at stock?

"If he uses a lot of some single threaded app." Like most apps/processes don't?

"and defly will be slower than his fx ( if OCed )." Too funny.

I think you should overclock something called a brain, before giving any more wrong advice.