King coal

[Diddums]

The problem with forums is that context doesn’t come across very well, people are treating this seriously when it’s clearly a parody

It's not. Read some of rubberduck's other gems, the guy's not all there and people who disagree with him "are just haters".

 

[Dis86]

The problem with forums is that context doesn’t come across very well, people are treating this seriously when it’s clearly a parody

no no, he is really just a nut job.

 

[D.P.]

Everyone still uses coal why don't we?

The conservative government killed coal

 

[D.P.]

Slightly ignoring the fact that it wasn’t economically viable to keep mining it here, but yes.

It is not particularly economic in Germany, they highly subsidize coal mining for several reasons, but not recreating NE England is one of them.

 

[Jez]

no no, he is really just a nut job.

If his post was serious then it’s amazing, it reads like a grossly over egged parody of what a nutjob would say

 

[Puzzled]

If his post was serious then it’s amazing, it reads like a grossly over egged parody of what a nutjob would say

Lots of scare stories about dirty electricity but personally I've found its nothing that a bit of cillit bang spayed in the socket won't sort out.

 

[Dis86]

If his post was serious then it’s amazing, it reads like a grossly over egged parody of what a nutjob would say

Honestly, as Diddums (suggestions welcome) says, have a read of his posting history. It's amazing.

 

[Efour]

So is it a real post or just funny, cos it's cleverly funny.

If not then.....

Seek help.

 

[Vonhelmet]

It is not particularly economic in Germany, they highly subsidize coal mining for several reasons, but not recreating NE England is one of them.

Steady on, you’ll be saying we could learn something from Germany next!

 

[Diddums]

So is it a real post or just funny, cos it's cleverly funny.

If not then.....

Seek help.

The jewel in rubberduck's crown is saying that Mugabe isn't a bad chap, he's just been portrayed like that in the western media and one day we'll all look back and realise what a totes ledge the lad was.

And yes, he meant it.

 

[FortuitousFluke]

The jewel in rubberduck's crown is saying that Mugabe isn't a bad chap, he's just been portrayed like that in the western media and one day we'll all look back and realise what a totes ledge the lad was.

And yes, he meant it.

That was my favourite. Anybody interested in crowd sourcing to publish a Rubberduck's greatest hits album? Tony Robinson might agree to narrate, he's going to run out of Pratchett books eventually.

 

[Orionaut]

Remember it well, but the lesson I learned from that is how stupid the unions and socialists are.

The conservative government killed coal

Scargil and the NUM killed Coal,

I remember, nealy 35 years ago, Scargils "Ratner Moment" the widely televised speech he made when he uttered, with a manic look on his face, the words that I knew at the time would condemn the mining industry to its death...

"There is no such thing as an uneconomic pit"

(Might not have been exactly those words, but it is the gist of what he said)

I knew then that they were finished, the support of the wider general public would be lost for ever.

And the appalling tragedy of it is that actually, HE WAS RIGHT!

he was a miner, he was talking to miners, he had forgotten that he was also talking to the wider public.

I am certain now (As I was at the time) that what he meant was this...

"The only logical depletion policy for a coal mine using longwall is to work it to exhaustion"

Had he actually explained that I am sure the wider public would have understood.


I also think the wider public would have been a whole lot more sympathetic if Scargil had been concerned with, you know, the interests of his unions members rather than his obsession with being some sort of stalinesque revolutionary sending his unions members "over the top" in a futile attempt to overthrow what, at the time was a very popular Conservative government.

The wider public remembered the rolling power cuts of the three day week and they/we were not particularly forgiving over it....

 

[SPG]

Germany are scared of Russia turning off pipeline in the incoming economic scary years.

 

[Rroff]

Germany are scared of Russia turning off pipeline in the incoming economic scary years.

Can Russia afford to? without building a customer base elsewhere at least. From the other perspective it would be useful to reduce the income of Russia to keep them in a weaker state.

 

[Orionaut]

Can Russia afford to? without building a customer base elsewhere at least. From the other perspective it would be useful to reduce the income of Russia to keep them in a weaker state.

Gas mostly goes down pipelines, Yes I know there are alternatives, but they carry huge costs.

Building a "New customer base" isn't going to be easy.

In any case, Soviet Union/Russia have historically been very committed to honoring trade agreements.

I would be Surprised (and a little disappointed) were Russia to use the threat of interruption of Gas supply as a political tool

 

[Rroff]

Building a "New customer base" isn't going to be easy.

Nope but it seems some of their actions else where have been at least someone motivated by the potential for developing other markets and routes such pipelines would have to take.

 

[Glaucus]

I would be Surprised (and a little disappointed) were Russia to use the threat of interruption of Gas supply as a political tool

how can you say that when they have already done it twice and are threatening to do it again.
this is another reason we need more renewables, energy security.

edit - actually seems they have done it more than twice.

 

[FoxEye]

how can you say that when they have already done it twice and are threatening to do it again.
this is another reason we need more renewables, energy security.

edit - actually seems they have done it more than twice.

Referring no doubt to their dispute with Ukraine over paying the bill?

The same pro-West pro-EU Ukraine who have completely cut off water supply to Crimea, causing the whole region to become a giant dust bowl.

Ukraine has said it will happily turn the Crimean region into an uninhabitable wasteland, unless Russia gives it back to them.

No saints, any of them.

Has Russia threatened supply to anyone else?

 

[Glaucus]

Referring no doubt to their dispute with Ukraine over paying the bill?

The same pro-West pro-EU Ukraine who have completely cut off water supply to Crimea, causing the whole region to become a giant dust bowl.

Ukraine has said it will happily turn the Crimean region into an uninhabitable wasteland, unless Russia gives it back to them.

No saints, any of them.

Has Russia threatened supply to anyone else?

lol, what has any of that got to do with what i said. and yes seeing as a majour pipe runs through ukrain, when they cut the supply they do not deliver the contracted amount to the uk as theres, not enough alternative capacity. So it hurts the entirety of the EU.

 

[newbiejim]

How old are you ? Do you remember the miners holding the country to ransom and bringing down governments under Arthur Scargill ?

We moved to gas under Thatcher so they could never do it again.

What governments did they bring down under Arthur Scargill?