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Sean O' Neill

Sean O' Neill

Sean O' Neill

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I mainly building it for my son to play sims 4, I'm not sure how good it would play any of the new games?
I have ssd already and monitor, windows. But from looking around here I came up with this, not sure how good it is, trying to keep it as cheap as i can, but can i upgrade in the future with this?

1 x NEOS ATX TOWER BLACK/GOLD WINDOW = £28.99
1 x Asrock AB350M-HDV AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard= £67.99
1 x EVGA 450BT 450W 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply= £37.99
1 x Team Group Dark Pro 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Red (TDPRD48G3000= £89.99
1 x AMD Ryzen 3 Quad Core 1200 3.40GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £94.99
1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £104.99
 
Sean O' Neill said:
but can i upgrade in the future with this?
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Hi, welcome to the forum.

Yes you can upgrade, with a few limitations:

PSU won't cope with certain GPUs. You'll want to think of it as actually a 420W, when considering upgrades, as that's what it outputs on the +12v. However, it could see you for a few years if you stick to upgrading with those it can handle. And given it can handle even a GTX 1080, that's alright. AMD Vegas would be very tight, or not doable. Same with GTX 1080Ti. If there was more room in the budget I'd go for something a bit better, but if not it will do and EVGA support is good despite that model not being great. For a few pounds more you could go with equally good support from Corsair and slightly better 550W CX or CX-M model with 5 year warranty. And for a few more on top of that, there's this solid SuperFlower:


My basket at Overclockers UK:
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Motherboard only has two DIMM slots so you can't add on more RAM. This is something I'd try find an alternative for with four DIMM slots. Around that price, one of the decent options (elsewhere as OcUK don't stock it) is MSI B350M Bazooka for £72 currently.

NEOS case is kind of a hot box but will be ok for budget or mid-range systems.
 
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My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £507.60 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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Justifying the B Grade RX 460 like so: its performance isn't too far from RX 560 and it would be the first thing to upgrade anyway so doesn't need to last that long, and cost allows getting a 1600 processor you won't need to upgrade, better PSU and motherboard for RAM and GPU upgrades.
 
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depending on how likely you are to upgrade in the near future, @Danny75 's build is a good call.
if you aren't that likely to upgrade, then consider:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £509.24 (includes shipping: £12.30)​
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Aye. Now you have two decent options, one weighted towards upgrading GPU in near future, and one with a bit more GPU power out of the box.
 
Danny75 said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £507.60 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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Justifying the B Grade RX 460 like so: its performance is the same as RX 560 and it would be the first thing to upgrade anyway so doesn't need to last that long, and cost allows getting a 1600 processor you won't need to upgrade, better PSU and motherboard for RAM and GPU upgrades.
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if you went for this currently that board is available as b grade for £60

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/b-gr...am4-ddr4-micro-atx-motherboard-bg-563-gi.html

maybe switch to this case it's a good one for the money

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aerocool-qs-240-micro-atx-case-black-ca-192-ae.html
 
Normally I don't recommend B grade mobos, as warranty can be a pain , least if it's gigabyte and you run into an issues you've got rep support and can send off the board to them in the UK. If it was Asus, nightmare if you've got no reseller to go through etc .

I'm sure the 580 has more cores unlocked then the 460, but if budget is tight, budget is tight .
 
Sean O' Neill said:
I mainly building it for my son to play sims 4, I'm not sure how good it would play any of the new games?
I have ssd already and monitor, windows. But from looking around here I came up with this, not sure how good it is, trying to keep it as cheap as i can, but can i upgrade in the future with this?

1 x NEOS ATX TOWER BLACK/GOLD WINDOW = £28.99
1 x Asrock AB350M-HDV AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard= £67.99
1 x EVGA 450BT 450W 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply= £37.99
1 x Team Group Dark Pro 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Red (TDPRD48G3000= £89.99
1 x AMD Ryzen 3 Quad Core 1200 3.40GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £94.99
1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 560 Gaming OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £104.99
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regardless of whatever people have put as alternative(not looked), this system will play sims 4 just fine on high settings at 1920x1080 and unless you would plan to upgrade the graphics card then the power supply will be enough, not all games need power hungry cards.


i3(2c/4t), 16gb ram, 1gb gtx 750 , this was my system back when i used to play this game(havent installed it again) and was running as i described above, sims 3/4 are not quite as demanding as you think and screen tearing can appear from what ive noticed, think thats more to do with the game.
 
I been busy since i posted here and have not got to order till tonight, I'm going to go with Danny75 build and i just found MSI GeForce GTX 570 OC Twin FrozR III Power Edition 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics in my old PC that still works, is it worth using this in my sons PC, is the power supply ok/will it fit.
 
It will fit and PSU has enough juice. The 1.28GB of VRAM will be limiting in other games but should be ok for Sims. I think it's worth using and seeing how it goes.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £461.61 (includes shipping: £11.70)​
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