how well has the gtx 780ti aged is it worth upgrading?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I thought the new consumer cards are now called Ampere,but I am still failing to see what all this has to do with the OP trying to improve the performance of their system in PUBG?? I don't see any noise about an Ampere/Volta based gaming card being released in the next few months either.

 

[melmac]

I thought the new consumer cards are now called Ampere,but I am still failing to see what all this has to do with the OP trying to improve the performance of their system in PUBG?? I don't see any noise about an Ampere/Volta based gaming card being released in the next few months either.

He got his answer in the first few posts. Upgrade CPU and then the 1070 or 1070Ti would be a massive upgrade for him.

That Volta talk occurred because someone mentioned waiting for Volta. So it's not completely off topic

 

[Caracus2k]

That's what I am saying. Your are guessing. You don't know when Nvidia planned to release Volta. There has been no hints of a release date. Nothing only guesswork by people on forums.

Colour me confused.... Earlier you were suggesting that you had some knowledge about the volta release schedule either not available or not seen by me? Can I therefore conclude that you don't actually have access to more accurate information but yet misleadinly asset your opinion as if you do? My post on. The matter was quite clearly identified as an opinion rather than a statement of some sort of fact....

If Nvidia had Volta ready now they would release it. The demand for ever more powerful GPUs is at an all time high. From what little we do know about Volta, it's going to be a much better compute card than Pascal. Miners are crying out for better GPUs and that market is massive

Demonstrably nonsense.......

Volta has been available for a few months. If nvidia wanted to release a consumer volta product they could do so right know but it would make little sense to do so as they can instead sell the limited dies they have in cards costing £10,000+ rather then a fraction of this for a consumer card. Nvidia can maximise profits from professional cards and stockpile dies for the consumer release without much worry at this point.

 

[subbytna]

I would change the CPU setup first. That "6 core" amd chip is quite long in the tooth now and might bottle neck a new 1070 or whatever graphics card you end up getting.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

He got his answer in the first few posts. Upgrade CPU and then the 1070 or 1070Ti would be a massive upgrade for him.

That Volta talk occurred because someone mentioned waiting for Volta. So it's not completely off topic

The OP is also using a 34" FreeSync monitor too apparently,but I suspect a new CPU will actually help more at this point.

Look at the FPS once they get out of the starting area,and that is at 1080p in Ultra. Unless the game has become worse on GPUs recently,even with a Core i7 4770K at stock clockspeeds it should be enough in the game it appears.

 

[subbytna]

Having read this thread fully now, after replying to the OP, can I just say that the infantile "us v them" arguing is grinding me down to the point the forums are annoying now instead of informative. Getting ridiculous now.

 

[jigger]

Having read this thread fully now, after replying to the OP, can I just say that the infantile "us v them" arguing is grinding me down to the point the forums are annoying now instead of informative. Getting ridiculous now.

It's a problem of perspective and how some project. Saying things like Nvidia don't need to release better hardware becuase they are so far ahead when in reality they're not is annoying. We know Pascal is due to be replaced and the hardware is at the end of its cycle.

CES is an ideal opertunity for Nvidia to launch Volta.

 

[R9mpo]

OK,I looked at another thread the OP made:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/is-my-ram-bottle-necking-my-pc.18801838/#post-31384442

They are using dual channel RAM.

They also have a 34" FreeSync monitor which is 1080p,so I assume its one of the 2560X1080 ones??

Can you clarify what model you are using OP??

They also play PUBG.

I would say looking at that,perhaps they should try the CPU upgrade path first. It also looks like they say their system RAM is maxed out too.

So OP,if I were you try the platform upgrade for now and stick with the GTX780TI and see how you fare with the game. Since you have FreeSync it might be worth looking at an AMD card at a later date,providing its not overpriced,but the latter part is very important.

From what I gather from looking at some reviews of PUBG its not too bad with VRAM usage,although I don't know if the later updates have changed that.

hi,

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lg-3...-widescreen-led-gaming-monitor-mo-14g-lg.html

this is the montior i am using its freesync so maybe a amd card would be best as i literally just brought it in a black friday sale.

I only really have the desire to play at 1080p as i dont have 600 quid to throw at a 1080ti at the moment.

i do run 8gb of avexir DDR3 1600mhz ram.


I am planning either a R5 1600 or i5 8400.

im not sure on which boards and ram to go for. im assuming with the i5 there is only the z370 board which will support faster ram but with the amd im unsure as i could overclock?

Will a AMD CPU work better with one of their cards?

will i need a AMD card to get the most out of my montior or can i use the 75 hz on a Nvidia card?

 

[R9mpo]

also which AMD cards would be comparable but not a VEGA prices?

 

[Rroff]

It's a problem of perspective and how some project. Saying things like Nvidia don't need to release better hardware becuase they are so far ahead when in reality they're not is annoying. We know Pascal is due to be replaced and the hardware is at the end of its cycle.

CES is an ideal opertunity for Nvidia to launch Volta.

Thing is you talk **** about Pascal and some of it isn't without merit on its own standing but Vega struggles to compete in all but the most recent games and there it barely eeks out a win against its nearest competitors while having a considerably larger die and using a lot more power and can't even come close in most cases except Wolfenstein II at 1080p to the 1080ti which still has a smaller die and uses less power. So it ain't like Vega is anything to shout about either - it struggles to outclass these legacy design, one foot in the past Pascal cores.

 

[jigger]

Thing is you talk **** about Pascal and some of it isn't without merit on its own standing but Vega struggles to compete in all but the most recent games and there it barely eeks out a win against its nearest competitors while having a considerably larger die and using a lot more power and can't even come close in most cases except Wolfenstein II at 1080p to the 1080ti which still has a smaller die and uses less power. So it ain't like Vega is anything to shout about either - it struggles to outclass these legacy design, one foot in the past Pascal cores.

No, it's all with merit. But yeah I get that to you someone pointing out Nvidia aren't the greatestz upsets the focus group and goes against the retoric.

 

[Rroff]

No, it's all with merit. But yeah I get that to you someone pointing out Nvidia aren't the greatestz upsets the focus group and goes against the retoric.

Like some others that are now on my ignore list you'd do well to actually look at some of my posts in general before spouting such rubbish and looking silly.

 

[jigger]

Like some others that are now on my ignore list you'd do well to actually look at some of my posts in general before spouting such rubbish and looking silly.

Rroff I've read your posts for years. Loltastic nvidia nut. Sorry if me saying Pascal is old and leaves a lot to be desriered on the harware front upsets the focus group. But it is.

 

[Rroff]

Rroff I've read your posts for years. Loltastic nvidia nut. Sorry if me saying Pascal is old and leaves a lot to be desriered on the harware front upsets the focus group. But it is.

Read my posts maybe but like others you are reading what you want to see and ignoring much of the rest and often superimposing what you've already decided I've said when often I've not even said anything remotely like it. After awhile it gets really old and boring.

I've objectively argued both perspectives negative and positive when it comes to Pascal including with technical details in some cases it is unfortunate you are incapable of comprehending that.

 

[Vince]

The focus group says don't listen to these tools and buy yourself some new kit! Start with the cpu, memory and board, wack that 780 in there and see how she is. I suspect you will be happy for another little while as the 780 imo should still be quite comfortable at 1080. I did a similar upgrade from an even older 6core chip (1090t) recently and pubg gains were significant and will be regardless if you go ryzen or i5.

When you need a bit more millage which no doubt you will as the upgrade bug would have taken full hold at this point so when it has grab yourself a new gpu, preferably without asking here first otherwise you need to dig through the 1% of useful posts to find relevant info which is tedious at best.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

hi,

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lg-3...-widescreen-led-gaming-monitor-mo-14g-lg.html

this is the montior i am using its freesync so maybe a amd card would be best as i literally just brought it in a black friday sale.

I only really have the desire to play at 1080p as i dont have 600 quid to throw at a 1080ti at the moment.

i do run 8gb of avexir DDR3 1600mhz ram.


I am planning either a R5 1600 or i5 8400.

im not sure on which boards and ram to go for. im assuming with the i5 there is only the z370 board which will support faster ram but with the amd im unsure as i could overclock?

Will a AMD CPU work better with one of their cards?

will i need a AMD card to get the most out of my montior or can i use the 75 hz on a Nvidia card?

Well to put it bluntly any newish CPU from the last three years from Intel or AMD Ryzen would be a huge upgrade in PUBG over what you have. For instance look at this video with someone using your card at 1080p with a Core i7 4770k at stock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDu0Y7qbdjc

Regarding the CPUs,looking at the latest Techspot test of the game,the Intel CPUs are faster:

https://www.techspot.com/article/1532-pubg-cpu-benchmarks/

It looks like Ryzen probably needs a patch as a few months ago the Intel and AMD CPUs were very close together.

However,the FPS is still well over 60FPS for all the £100+ CPUs.

Looking roughly at the current prices,an OEM Core i5 8400 with no cooler and a shorter warranty is nearly £200,or around £220 if you add a cooler like a Hyper 212. The Ryzen 5 1600 is £180,so if you look on price performance for PUBG they are quite similar in FPS/£,since the Core i5 8400 is around 20% more once a cooler is included - this is a shame as the Core i5 8400 should be £180 including the cooler.

Regarding motherboards,I would say any Z370 one for £100 to £110 should be technically fine.

Your timing with Ryzen was a bit off - Asus had a huge promotion until the end of last month with two AAA games free,and the Ryzen 5 1600 was under £160!!

Regarding Ryzen,something like the Asus B350 PLUS,B350 Strix or the MSI B350 Tomahawk look solid enough.

About the RAM,its best to check the QVL for each motherboard,although IIRC this RAM should be OK as OcUK listed it in one of their Ryzen deals threads:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...al-channel-kit-grey-tlgd416g30-my-087-tg.html

However,I would probably check beforehand. The 3200MHZ stuff seems to have gone up a lot in price so I don't think it is worth it.

 

[Simon Belmont]

Rroff I've read your posts for years. Loltastic nvidia nut. Sorry if me saying Pascal is old and leaves a lot to be desriered on the harware front upsets the focus group. But it is.

You sound exactly like that guy from Adoredtv. I wonder if you’re him?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I had another thought OP,CEX are selling secondhand Core i7 4770 CPUs for £145. Maybe if you got a new Haswell board,you could re-use your current RAM,and add another 8GB.

Sure a Ryzen 5 1600 or Core i5 8400 might have more longevity(AM4 might last a few years),but if you are on a budget it might save you some money,so you can put it towards the graphics card or an SSD,etc??

BTW,what PSU do you have??

 

[Schizo]

Closing thread,Thread has gone of topic as usual in this area of the forums !